I am in. We should create a google event/hangout on air and spread the word.
manfred Jason van Zyl wrote on 11.06.2014 16:01: > All right, then shall we try to kick it off next Wednesday? > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2014&month=6&day=25&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=250&p3=136&p4=166 > > It's always hard given that we're all around the world, but I'll throw that > out > as a starting point. > > On Jun 11, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Manfred Moser <manf...@mosabuam.com> wrote: > >> A regular Maven hangout would be great. I have been contemplating doing that >> for the android maven plugin community alone for a while already. Maybe I >> kick >> that off with the upcoming release of 4.0.0 ;-) >> >> manfred >> >> Jason van Zyl wrote on 11.06.2014 06:32: >> >>> Generally in the last 13 years these types of meetings have resulted in very >>> little other than people who are being paid to work on Maven. First it's not >>> a >>> trivial amount of money for many to travel across the world for a meeting >>> and >>> miss several days of work, even if you live in Europe. Second, having these >>> big-bang, lets-change-the-world events have always dissipated out pretty >>> fast. >>> This is not cynicism, this is just observed fact over the years. If no one >>> is >>> working on basic maintenance and bug fixing then I highly doubt anything >>> bigger >>> is going to change. >>> >>> However, I do think that talking with others is orders of magnitude more >>> productive than mailing lists, but we can start doing this today with a >>> Google >>> hangout. Having face-to-face meetings more often and discussing changes I >>> think >>> would be a positive step forward and doesn't require traveling around the >>> world >>> to accomplish. >>> >>> I am highly encouraged of late by the pull requests coming in for the core >>> and >>> right now that's the biggest avenue of change. I don't think we need to have >>> grand, in person meetings to affect change. We've had recent significant >>> contributions in m2e lately and I'm not sure why but I think we have to >>> capitalize on that and do things that are easier for people like hangouts, >>> and >>> not things that are costly and time consuming like conferences. >>> >>> Personally I would love it if we had a weekly Google hangout to chat about >>> Maven. I think that would have a chance of changing something. A big meeting >>> at >>> a conference having any real impact I think is close to zero based on my >>> personal experience. Not that it isn't nice to meet with people and talk if >>> you >>> can, but trying to do planning for a project like this where many are >>> immediately excluded by virtue of geography, time/money is not a great >>> thing. >>> >>> On Jun 11, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Kristian Rosenvold >>> <kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've been considering attending apachecon in Budapest, and I would be >>>> really interested in creating a meet up to discuss "future maven" (for >>>> one or more days). It would be interesting to see if we'd be capable >>>> of using such an occasion to determine a little more about the "big >>>> picture" future of maven, possibly even discuss a proper "4.0" release >>>> and/or work through the reality of revised pom versions/formats. Like >>>> a lot of us I seem to be having trouble finding time for more than >>>> incremental (minor) improvements. It also seems like a lot of the >>>> stuff on the current "4.0" list is quite minor stuff and I'd really >>>> enjoy an occasion to investigate big changes :) >>>> >>>> Anyone else interested ? >>>> >>>> Kristian >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >>>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Jason >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >>> Jason van Zyl >>> Founder, Apache Maven >>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >>> http://twitter.com/takari_io >>> --------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea, >>> so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second, >>> the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints, >>> as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might. >>> >>> -- Plato, Phaedrus (Notes on the Synthesis of Form by C. 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