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Hervé Le mercredi 11 juin 2014 19:01:39 Jason van Zyl a écrit : > All right, then shall we try to kick it off next Wednesday? > > http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingdetails.html?year=2014&month=6&; > day=25&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=224&p2=250&p3=136&p4=166 > > It's always hard given that we're all around the world, but I'll throw that > out as a starting point. > On Jun 11, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Manfred Moser <manf...@mosabuam.com> wrote: > > A regular Maven hangout would be great. I have been contemplating doing > > that for the android maven plugin community alone for a while already. > > Maybe I kick that off with the upcoming release of 4.0.0 ;-) > > > > manfred > > > > Jason van Zyl wrote on 11.06.2014 06:32: > >> Generally in the last 13 years these types of meetings have resulted in > >> very little other than people who are being paid to work on Maven. First > >> it's not a trivial amount of money for many to travel across the world > >> for a meeting and miss several days of work, even if you live in Europe. > >> Second, having these big-bang, lets-change-the-world events have always > >> dissipated out pretty fast. This is not cynicism, this is just observed > >> fact over the years. If no one is working on basic maintenance and bug > >> fixing then I highly doubt anything bigger is going to change. > >> > >> However, I do think that talking with others is orders of magnitude more > >> productive than mailing lists, but we can start doing this today with a > >> Google hangout. Having face-to-face meetings more often and discussing > >> changes I think would be a positive step forward and doesn't require > >> traveling around the world to accomplish. > >> > >> I am highly encouraged of late by the pull requests coming in for the > >> core and right now that's the biggest avenue of change. I don't think we > >> need to have grand, in person meetings to affect change. We've had > >> recent significant contributions in m2e lately and I'm not sure why but > >> I think we have to capitalize on that and do things that are easier for > >> people like hangouts, and not things that are costly and time consuming > >> like conferences. > >> > >> Personally I would love it if we had a weekly Google hangout to chat > >> about > >> Maven. I think that would have a chance of changing something. A big > >> meeting at a conference having any real impact I think is close to zero > >> based on my personal experience. Not that it isn't nice to meet with > >> people and talk if you can, but trying to do planning for a project like > >> this where many are immediately excluded by virtue of geography, > >> time/money is not a great thing. > >> > >> On Jun 11, 2014, at 1:53 AM, Kristian Rosenvold > >> <kristian.rosenv...@gmail.com>>> > >> wrote: > >>> I've been considering attending apachecon in Budapest, and I would be > >>> really interested in creating a meet up to discuss "future maven" (for > >>> one or more days). It would be interesting to see if we'd be capable > >>> of using such an occasion to determine a little more about the "big > >>> picture" future of maven, possibly even discuss a proper "4.0" release > >>> and/or work through the reality of revised pom versions/formats. Like > >>> a lot of us I seem to be having trouble finding time for more than > >>> incremental (minor) improvements. It also seems like a lot of the > >>> stuff on the current "4.0" list is quite minor stuff and I'd really > >>> enjoy an occasion to investigate big changes :) > >>> > >>> Anyone else interested ? > >>> > >>> Kristian > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jason van Zyl > >> Founder, Apache Maven > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> http://twitter.com/takari_io > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> First, the taking in of scattered particulars under one Idea, > >> so that everyone understands what is being talked about ... Second, > >> the separation of the Idea into parts, by dividing it at the joints, > >> as nature directs, not breaking any limb in half as a bad carver might. > >> > >> -- Plato, Phaedrus (Notes on the Synthesis of Form by C. 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