I am going to run the build with --add-modules java.se.ee If this will work for me then pls confirm that I can commit it to master.
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote: > On mer 16 ago 2017, 08:19 Tibor Digana <tibor.dig...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > > > Still I do not understand what is the difference between *all_system* > > and *java.se.ee > > <http://java.se.ee>*. > > Is it a bug that proprietary package *jdk.incubator.httpclient* is in the > > warning? It looks like it wants to be exposed out of the jdk to our > > application which is not legal but then why jdk allows. > > > > I see your headache with this. > Maybe we could add only java.se.ee and document how to change to > all_system. > I will check the actual difference for normal applications > > > Cheers > Enrico > > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Il mer 16 ago 2017, 02:44 Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> ha > > > scritto: > > > > > > > Hi Enrico, > > > > > > > > It does not appear on console output however it is stored as native > > > std/out > > > > in target/surefire-reports/2017-08-13T23-52-13_184.dumpstream > > > > > > > > > > Yep, it is as I suspected. If we want ro get rid of it we have to only > > add > > > java.se.ee module > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Enrico Olivelli [via Maven] < > > > > ml+s40175n5912520...@n5.nabble.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Il dom 13 ago 2017, 17:31 Tibor Digana <[hidden email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=0>> ha > > > > > scritto: > > > > > > > > > > > I found an issue. JDK printed this on std/out: > > > > > > WARNING: Using incubator modules: jdk.incubator.httpclient > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > IMHO This is because we are importing all system modules. Maybe > > > importing > > > > > only java.se.ee would cover most of the cases. > > > > > I did not notice the warning on test I have run today > > > > > > > > > > Enrico > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It hapens after my test: > > > > > > > > > > > > import org.junit.Test; > > > > > > > > > > > > public class J9Test > > > > > > { > > > > > > @Test > > > > > > public void testMiscellaneousAPI() throws > java.sql.SQLException > > > > > > { > > > > > > System.out.println( "loaded class " + > > > > > > java.sql.SQLException.class.getName() ); > > > > > > System.out.println( "loaded class " + > > > > > > javax.xml.ws.Holder.class.getName() ); > > > > > > System.out.println( "loaded class " + > > > > > > javax.xml.bind.JAXBException.class.getName() ); > > > > > > System.out.println( "loaded class " + > > > > > > org.omg.CORBA.BAD_INV_ORDER.class.getName() ); > > > > > > System.out.println( "loaded class " + > > > > > > javax.xml.xpath.XPath.class.getName() ); > > > > > > System.out.println( "java.specification.version=" + > > > > > > System.getProperty( "java.specification.version" ) ); > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > @Test > > > > > > public void test_corba_mod() throws > org.omg.CORBA.BAD_INV_ORDER > > > > > > { > > > > > > } > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Tibor Digana <[hidden email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=1> > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > But why to add it? It's a hack. I do not use module-info.java > and > > > so > > > > > > there > > > > > > > is no reason to break the backwards compatibility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is no more about Maven. It is about entire Java world. > > > > > > > If we in Maven do it then everybody has to. > > > > > > > And I am sure that the voices says that Kotlin is better and > > Scala > > > is > > > > > > > better would make sense. Why to help these attempts to happen? > No > > > > > reason! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Gary Gregory <[hidden email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=2>> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is there a Maven way to add ALL-SYSTEM to everything? Using > > plugin > > > > > > >> specific > > > > > > >> tags like below is going to be painful. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Gary > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> On Aug 13, 2017 07:30, "Tibor Digana" <[hidden email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=3>> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Hi @Enrico, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I am very unhappy with Java 9 status and very afraid. > > > > > > >> > I do not like the style how Oracle has changed Java to Java > 9 > > > and > > > > > > forced > > > > > > >> > all the world to use additional effort to adapt to Oracle > > > > > activities. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I am facing more unhappy Java development teams with Java 9 > in > > > the > > > > > > >> future. > > > > > > >> > For instance as I have tried to implement users wish in > Maven > > > > > Surefire > > > > > > >> > project and invested my personal time and effort to adapt to > > > > Oracle > > > > > > >> > requirements, this still does not convince me to say that > > Java 9 > > > > is > > > > > > >> ready > > > > > > >> > to go. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > This is my comment from Jira: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > "This is not nice on Java 9 that they broke backwards > > > > compatibility > > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > force the world to use the switch to use --add-modules > > > ALL-SYSTEM > > > > > > >> instead > > > > > > >> > of providing all modules installed in JRE. For instance, > small > > > JRE > > > > > > >> having > > > > > > >> > {{java.base}} has advantage on embedded systems and the only > > > > should > > > > > be > > > > > > >> > propagated. Big scope JRE should propagate all installed > > > modules. > > > > > > >> > But for me it does not make security sense and common sense > to > > > > > force > > > > > > >> JRE to > > > > > > >> > provide modules. It should be opposite and the admin/Jenkins > > > > should > > > > > > >> > configure big scope JRE with selected modules propagated to > > Java > > > > > > runtime > > > > > > >> > applications. > > > > > > >> > If this admin does not do that then all modules should be > > > > available > > > > > by > > > > > > >> > default which is backwards compatibility for me and we do > not > > > have > > > > > to > > > > > > to > > > > > > >> > implement these stupid tricks." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > As far as we remember Java Security, the policies can be > > > > > configured. > > > > > > >> > I can imaging same paradigm in Jigsaw/Java 9 and then the > > admin > > > > who > > > > > > has > > > > > > >> > installed JDK or JRE would "switch off" some modules. But > > > > opposite, > > > > > > that > > > > > > >> > means the script which starts Java app currently enables > "all" > > > > > modules > > > > > > >> is > > > > > > >> > against security and against the principle of modular system > > > > > because > > > > > > the > > > > > > >> > modules do not make sense then. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > What makes sense to me is to enable "all java/javax" modules > > > > except > > > > > > for > > > > > > >> the > > > > > > >> > "com.sun" proprietary ones by default. > > > > > > >> > So yes enable them by default and please release specific > JRE > > > > > > >> installations > > > > > > >> > with specific bunch of Java modules for specific use cases. > > > > > > >> > This means those modules in that particular release are all > > > > enabled > > > > > by > > > > > > >> > default if not configured otherwise by admin, e.g. Jenkins, > > > > > operation > > > > > > >> > staff, etc. (do NOT mean Sun packages - never visible). > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Here it comes. The idea that we can install small 5MB/JRE on > > > small > > > > > > Linux > > > > > > >> > device would be possible because Oracle would release such > > tiny > > > > JRE > > > > > > >> using > > > > > > >> > only "java.lang" and then another JRE installation using > > > java.lang > > > > > and > > > > > > >> > java.utils, and later NIO and later "java.desktop", etc. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Then vendors of web browsers and Linux dist would be happy > to > > > > > > integrate > > > > > > >> > small JRE into and use JavaFX. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > But now it is not possible because the modules are basically > > > > three: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > java.base == 37MB > > > > > > >> > java.desktop == 36MB > > > > > > >> > java.xml ==20MB > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > All the other modules are pretty small but these three seen > in > > > > > > "src.zip" > > > > > > >> > make the modular system unbalanced in size and nobody would > > ever > > > > > wish > > > > > > to > > > > > > >> > integrate them because they are still big. That means the > > > problem > > > > > that > > > > > > >> > Oracle has with NIO implementation in com.sun package > > propagated > > > > to > > > > > > >> > "java.util", nobody in the world care and nobody should see > > as a > > > > > > >> problem to > > > > > > >> > split "java.base" much more. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > If splitting "java.base" happened then not certified JVMs > > > > developed > > > > > at > > > > > > >> > Universities would for instance implement only "java.lang" > and > > > > > embed > > > > > > it > > > > > > >> in > > > > > > >> > to JVM and develop a new programming language on the top of > > > Java. > > > > > But > > > > > > >> > implementing 10 packages in java.base is an effort again. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > One more thing is regarding the size of the modules. > > > > > > >> > You really did not help embedded systems and installations > of > > > > > > browsers. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Enrico Olivelli <[hidden > > email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=4> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I would like to share my current pom configuration which > > lets > > > me > > > > > to > > > > > > >> > > build and test java8 apps on latest and greatest jdk9 > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > This profile is activated when using jdk9. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > This is based on a suggestion of Robert, its suggestion > for > > > the > > > > > > >> > > javadoc plugin is working great with surefire too > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > <profile> > > > > > > >> > > <id>jdk9</id> > > > > > > >> > > <activation> > > > > > > >> > > <jdk>[9,)</jdk> > > > > > > >> > > </activation> > > > > > > >> > > <build> > > > > > > >> > > <plugins> > > > > > > >> > > <plugin> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > <artifactId>maven-javadoc-plugin</artifactId> > > > > > > >> > > <configuration> > > > > > > >> > > <additionalparam>--add-modules > > > > > > >> > > ALL-SYSTEM</additionalparam> > > > > > > >> > > </configuration> > > > > > > >> > > </plugin> > > > > > > >> > > <plugin> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > <groupId>org.apache.maven.plugins</groupId> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > <artifactId>maven-surefire-pl > > > > > > >> ugin</artifactId> > > > > > > >> > > <version>2.20</version> > > > > > > >> > > <configuration> > > > > > > >> > > <argLine>--add-modules > > > > > > >> ALL-SYSTEM</argLine> > > > > > > >> > > </configuration> > > > > > > >> > > </plugin> > > > > > > >> > > </plugins> > > > > > > >> > > </build> > > > > > > >> > > </profile> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > -- Enrico > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > 2017-04-24 19:08 GMT+02:00 Karl Heinz Marbaise <[hidden > > email] > > > > > <http:///user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5912520&i=5>>: > > > > > > >> > > > Hi, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > yes I will do within this week... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > Kind regards > > > > > > >> > > > Karl Heinz Marbaise > > > > > > >> > > > On 23/04/17 21:37, Enrico Olivelli wrote: > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> Thank you Robert, > > > > > > >> > > >> I saw that you have merged my patch. > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> Is there any plan to release the new version of the war > > > > > plugin? 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