I think the conclusion is: 3.5.1 is not correct

it should either be:
3.5.2 without the 2 classloader related issues.
or
3.6.0 including the classloader related issues, but probably improved with a system property to switch back to the 3.5.0-behavior. We also need to improve ITs and documentation.

Since we need to make a new release anyway I would like to suggest to go for the first option, because some claim 3.5.0 is corrupt and the related issue is already fixed for quite some time. This should give us more time have a better look at these classloader issues.

Robert

On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:46:25 +0200, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:

I’d really like if somebody could draft the release notes for the two
different classloader changes. It will make it easier to decide whether to roll with this or bump minor with (if I recall correctly) the corresponding
drop of Java 7 per our policy on JVMs with minor version bump

On Wed 11 Oct 2017 at 07:33, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:

+1
eventually adding a flag or system property to activate the new behaviour

this remembers me of the idea regarding flags to support new beta features

Regards,

Hervé

Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, 08:13:13 CEST Anders Hammar a écrit :
> I'm feeling stronger and stronger about not having this change in a
bugfix
> release. Why not go for v3.6.0 if we decide that the class loading change
> is the way to go? And keep bugfix releases for just bugfixes.
>
> /Anders
>
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:43 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
>
> wrote:
> > perhaps we should create a Wiki page for
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> > and
> > list the plugins with known issues and minimum fixed version
> >
> > to be added in
> >
> >
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Errors+and+Solutions
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Hervé
> >
> > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, 02:52:53 CEST Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> > > IIUC, it's MDEPLOY-221 about net.flexmojos.oss:flexmojos-maven-plugin
> > >
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MDEPLOY-221
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Hervé
> > >
> > > Le mardi 10 octobre 2017, 20:48:13 CEST Robert Scholte a écrit :
> > > > FYI, MDEPLOY-121 mentions another plugin being hit by the
classloader
> > > > changes.
> > > >
> > > > Robert
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:22:18 +0200, Arnaud Héritier <
> >
> > aherit...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Stephen
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> > > > >
> > > > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> I am hoping I can find some time to do a final round of
experiments
> >
> > and
> >
> > > > >> then close the vote with success and publish.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue 3 Oct 2017 at 11:13, Arnaud Héritier <
aherit...@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > @Stephen What should we do now ?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Olivier Lamy <
ol...@apache.org>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> Hi
> > > > >> >> Sorry a bit out of time ATM for testing this.
> > > > >> >> Well I trust Arnaud testing that especially if this improve
the
> > > > >> >> performance
> > > > >> >> of this very great/awesome/users oriented plugin :P
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> On 13 September 2017 at 22:19, Arnaud Héritier
> > > > >> >> <aherit...@apache.org>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > Damned, can't we be anonymous on Github ?
> > > > >> >> > I maintain it is a big word, I'm trying to fix more bugs
than
> > > > >> >> > I
> > > > >> >> > add
> > > > >>
> > > > >> new
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > ones
> > > > >> >> > I added Oleg in the loop as he contributed a lot on it too
> > > > >> >> > I did a quick test to build on Jenkins 2.60.3 our maven
core
> >
> > with
> >
> > > > >> the
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> Evil
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Maven plugin 2.17 on a local SSH agent and it is ok
> > > > >> >> > But it is really a quick test ...
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Cheers
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > On 13 September 2017 at 01:05, Stephen Connolly <
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > >> On 13 September 2017 at 00:26, Anders Hammar
> > > > >> >> > >> <and...@hammar.net>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> > > > >> >> > >>>
> > > > >> >> > >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > >>> > Have we got any feedback from the embedder
integrations
> >
> > yet?
> >
> > > > >> >> > >>> I haven't heard anything from the m2e people. Maybe we
> >
> > need to
> >
> > > > >> ping
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > them
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > >>> directly. I can contact Fred Bricon.
> > > > >> >> > >>>
> > > > >> >> > >>> /Anders
> > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > >> >> > >> Please do, also if anyone has a contact in netbeans or
> >
> > intellij
> >
> > > > >> and
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > could
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > >> let them know we'd like either feedback or "we're ok if
> > > > >> >> > >> MNG-6275
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> makes
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > >> trouble for us, go ahead and release". I'd like to close
> > > > >> >> > >> the
> > > > >>
> > > > >> vote
> > > > >> on
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > Friday
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > >> 13:00 UTC.
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > Olivier / Arnaud, have either of you had a chance to test
> >
> > this
> >
> > > > >> with
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> the
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > > evil project type[1] as you two seem to be the active
> > > > >>
> > > > >> maintainers[2]
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > [1]: https://javaadventure.blogspot.ie/2013/11/jenkins->
>>
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > > maven-job-type-considered-evil.html [2]:
> > > > >> >> > > https://github.com/jenkinsci/maven-plugin/commits/master
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > --
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Arnaud
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> --
> > > > >> >> Olivier Lamy
> > > > >> >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > -----
> > > > >> > Arnaud Héritier
> > > > >> > http://aheritier.net
> > > > >> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> > > > >> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
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