Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, 23:47:54 CEST Robert Scholte a écrit :
> I think the conclusion is: 3.5.1 is not correct
> 
> it should either be:
> 3.5.2 without the 2 classloader related issues.
ideally with an option to activate the classloader changes (for people knowing 
what they are doing or wanting to test mode more widely)

> or
> 3.6.0 including the classloader related issues, but probably improved with
> a system property to switch back to the 3.5.0-behavior. We also need to
> improve ITs and documentation.
> 
> Since we need to make a new release anyway I would like to suggest to go
> for the first option, because some claim 3.5.0 is corrupt and the related
> issue is already fixed for quite some time.
+1 (sadly)

Regards,

Hervé

> This should give us more time have a better look at these classloader
> issues.
> 
> Robert
> 
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:46:25 +0200, Stephen Connolly
> 
> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I’d really like if somebody could draft the release notes for the two
> > different classloader changes. It will make it easier to decide whether
> > to
> > roll with this or bump minor with (if I recall correctly) the
> > corresponding
> > drop of Java 7 per our policy on JVMs with minor version bump
> > 
> > On Wed 11 Oct 2017 at 07:33, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> >> +1
> >> eventually adding a flag or system property to activate the new
> >> behaviour
> >> 
> >> this remembers me of the idea regarding flags to support new beta
> >> features
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> 
> >> Hervé
> >> 
> >> Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, 08:13:13 CEST Anders Hammar a écrit :
> >> > I'm feeling stronger and stronger about not having this change in a
> >> 
> >> bugfix
> >> 
> >> > release. Why not go for v3.6.0 if we decide that the class loading
> >> 
> >> change
> >> 
> >> > is the way to go? And keep bugfix releases for just bugfixes.
> >> > 
> >> > /Anders
> >> > 
> >> > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:43 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr>
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > perhaps we should create a Wiki page for
> >> 
> >> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
> >> 
> >> > > and
> >> > > list the plugins with known issues and minimum fixed version
> >> > > 
> >> > > to be added in
> >> 
> >> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MAVEN/Errors+and+Solutions
> >> 
> >> > > Regards,
> >> > > 
> >> > > Hervé
> >> > > 
> >> > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017, 02:52:53 CEST Hervé BOUTEMY a écrit :
> >> > > > IIUC, it's MDEPLOY-221 about
> >> 
> >> net.flexmojos.oss:flexmojos-maven-plugin
> >> 
> >> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MDEPLOY-221
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Regards,
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Hervé
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Le mardi 10 octobre 2017, 20:48:13 CEST Robert Scholte a écrit :
> >> > > > > FYI, MDEPLOY-121 mentions another plugin being hit by the
> >> 
> >> classloader
> >> 
> >> > > > > changes.
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Robert
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > On Tue, 03 Oct 2017 20:22:18 +0200, Arnaud Héritier <
> >> > > 
> >> > > aherit...@gmail.com>
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > Thanks Stephen
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> >> > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> I am hoping I can find some time to do a final round of
> >> 
> >> experiments
> >> 
> >> > > and
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> then close the vote with success and publish.
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> On Tue 3 Oct 2017 at 11:13, Arnaud Héritier <
> >> 
> >> aherit...@gmail.com>
> >> 
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > >> > @Stephen What should we do now ?
> >> > > > > >> > 
> >> > > > > >> > 
> >> > > > > >> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 3:14 AM, Olivier Lamy <
> >> 
> >> ol...@apache.org>
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> Hi
> >> > > > > >> >> Sorry a bit out of time ATM for testing this.
> >> > > > > >> >> Well I trust Arnaud testing that especially if this
> >> 
> >> improve
> >> the
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> performance
> >> > > > > >> >> of this very great/awesome/users oriented plugin :P
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> On 13 September 2017 at 22:19, Arnaud Héritier
> >> > > > > >> >> <aherit...@apache.org>
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> > Damned, can't we be anonymous on Github ?
> >> > > > > >> >> > I maintain it is a big word, I'm trying to fix more bugs
> >> 
> >> than
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > I
> >> > > > > >> >> > add
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> new
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > ones
> >> > > > > >> >> > I added Oleg in the loop as he contributed a lot on it
> >> 
> >> too
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > I did a quick test to build on Jenkins 2.60.3 our maven
> >> 
> >> core
> >> 
> >> > > with
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> the
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> Evil
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > Maven plugin 2.17 on a local SSH agent and it is ok
> >> > > > > >> >> > But it is really a quick test ...
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > Cheers
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Stephen Connolly <
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> > > On 13 September 2017 at 01:05, Stephen Connolly <
> >> > > > > >> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> On 13 September 2017 at 00:26, Anders Hammar
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> <and...@hammar.net>
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Stephen Connolly <
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> > Have we got any feedback from the embedder
> >> 
> >> integrations
> >> 
> >> > > yet?
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> I haven't heard anything from the m2e people. Maybe
> >> 
> >> we
> >> 
> >> > > need to
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> ping
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > them
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> directly. I can contact Fred Bricon.
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >>> /Anders
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> Please do, also if anyone has a contact in netbeans
> >> 
> >> or
> >> 
> >> > > intellij
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> and
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > could
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> let them know we'd like either feedback or "we're ok
> >> 
> >> if
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> MNG-6275
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> makes
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> trouble for us, go ahead and release". I'd like to
> >> 
> >> close
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> the
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> vote
> >> > > > > >> on
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > Friday
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > >> 13:00 UTC.
> >> > > > > >> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > > Olivier / Arnaud, have either of you had a chance to
> >> 
> >> test
> >> 
> >> > > this
> >> > > 
> >> > > > > >> with
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> the
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > > evil project type[1] as you two seem to be the active
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> maintainers[2]
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > > [1]:
> >> https://javaadventure.blogspot.ie/2013/11/jenkins->
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > > > maven-job-type-considered-evil.html [2]:
> >> https://github.com/jenkinsci/maven-plugin/commits/master
> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> > --
> >> > > > > >> >> > 
> >> > > > > >> >> > Arnaud
> >> > > > > >> >> 
> >> > > > > >> >> --
> >> > > > > >> >> Olivier Lamy
> >> > > > > >> >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >> > > > > >> > 
> >> > > > > >> > --
> >> > > > > >> > -----
> >> > > > > >> > Arnaud Héritier
> >> > > > > >> > http://aheritier.net
> >> > > > > >> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com
> >> > > > > >> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier
> >> > > > > >> 
> >> > > > > >> --
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