On Sat 21 Oct 2017 at 08:45, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
> ok, let's switch directly to the Docker case > > I'm not a Docker expert, then I'm discovering things that my be obvious to > others > > IIUC Docker has an "officiel images" project [1] where Carlos provided a > Maven > image [2]: then this image is known as "the official Maven Docker image" > Carlos is an individual, he's also a PMC member of Maven > > what do we want to say: the PMC member has provided an official Docker > image or > an individual has provided an official Docker image? > > depending on the answer, some way of doing has to be changed (Git location > or > naming of the official image) I’m in favour of creating a repo for the dockerfile, license.txt, read me, notices, etc and follow the standard release vote lifecycle for that dockerfile. If we want that dockerfile in Maven-core repo, i’m Fine with that too Now the other question is how to get the image from that dockerfile into docker... I’m happy for Carlos to continue doing in a personal capacity... So i’d be “The dockerfile has been released by the Maven project and a member of the PMC has uploaded the image” > > Regards, > > Hervé > > [1] https://github.com/docker-library/official-images > > [2] > https://github.com/docker-library/official-images/blob/master/library/maven > > Le samedi 21 octobre 2017, 06:58:50 CEST Manfred Moser a écrit : > > From my perspective it is just like sdkman including the conclusion. We > have > > other tasks at our hands, maintaining a docker images is not something we > > should bother with. However needs one can easily create one and there > will > > be thousands of variations different users want. > > > > Let them create it on their own. > > > > Manfred > > > > Hervé BOUTEMY wrote on 2017-10-20 18:46: > > > true, from a general perspective, it's like sdkman > > > > > > we need to discuss then decide if we want to maintain Maven Docker > > > integration (contrary to our current decision to not maintain Maven > > > sdkman integration but let sdkman community do it) > > > > > > can we think about a general solution? perhaps not really a solution, > but > > > a > > > decision process, yes > > > > > > to me, on each tool integration, there are key decision drivers: > > > - importance of the tool on the market > > > - interest of Maven devs to actually do integration maintenance > > > - complexity of integration, technical prerequisites (with IDEs, for > > > example, a dedicated independant project like m2e is necessary) > > > - time factor: things evolve over time (e.g. 2 years ago, Docker was > not > > > what it is nowadays) > > > > > > any other key driver to document? > > > > > > once done, we'll discuss more precisely about the Docker integration > case > > > > > > and probably finish with a vote :) > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Hervé > > > > > > Le vendredi 20 octobre 2017, 11:30:49 CEST Robert Scholte a écrit : > > >> Isn't this actually the same case as sdkman[1]? > > >> Just wondering if we need to think about a general solution instead of > > >> pulling everything into our project when possible. > > >> > > >> thanks, > > >> Robert > > >> > > >> [1] http://markmail.org/message/oofvszmf56tbr7et > > >> > > >> On Thu, 19 Oct 2017 19:30:57 +0200, Hervé BOUTEMY < > herve.bout...@free.fr> > > >> > > >> wrote: > > >> > great idea > > >> > > > >> > ok, we need a git repo at ASF > > >> > > > >> > what else? > > >> > Is there some sort of release process? some sort of source to > release? > > >> > > > >> > Regards, > > >> > > > >> > Hervé > > >> > > > >> > Le jeudi 19 octobre 2017, 13:47:45 CEST Mike Drob a écrit : > > >> >> Thanks for the pointer, Carlos! I had searched the archives, but > maybe > > >> >> I > > >> >> didn't go back far enough. > > >> >> > > >> >> I think moving these Dockerfiles into an ASF repo would be great > for > > >> >> their > > >> >> maintainability. > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> >> > > >> >> Mike > > >> >> > > >> >> On 2017-10-19 03:50, Carlos Sanchez <c...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> >> > Arnaud is correct, I sent an email to users@ back on Fri, Nov 7, > > >> >> > > >> >> 2014,> > > >> >> > > >> >> > 00:23 when I created the image> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017, 11:12 Arnaud H�ritier <ah...@gmail.com> > > >> >> > wrote:> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > These images are kindly managed by a PMC member of our project > > >> >> > > >> >> (Carlos) > > >> >> > > >> >> but> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > yes they aren't managed directly by the project> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > We can easily see with him to improve this IMO.> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > When he started that (several years ago) Docker wasn't what it > is > > >> >> > > >> >> nowadays.> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > With docker being mainstream I agree that we can reconsider > this.> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > The docker image build/distribution could perhaps be part of > our > > >> >> > > >> >> release> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > process.> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > WDYT Carlos ?> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 4:16 AM, Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> > > >> >> > > >> >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > I guess the natural follow-on question is whether the Maven > > >> >> > > >> >> community> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > would consider publishing an official set of images? Or > > >> >> > > >> >> alternatively> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > whether they should send a takedown notice to protect their > > >> >> > > > brand > > >> >> > > >> >> and> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > trademarks...> > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > On 2017-10-18 18:36, "Manfred Moser" <ma...@simpligility.com > > > > >> >> > > >> >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > No. As you can see from the github URL this is NOT an > apache > > >> >> > > >> >> URL.> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > https://github.com/carlossg/docker-maven> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > Mike Drob wrote on 2017-10-18 16:32:> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Hello,> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Are the images at https://hub.docker.com/r/_/maven/ > > >> >> > > >> >> considered to > > >> >> > > >> >> be> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > official> > > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > maven docker images and blessed/published by the PMC?> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Thanks,> > > >> >> > > > > > Mike> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org> > > >> >> > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > >> >> > > > > > users-h...@maven.apache.org> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > > >> >> > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > users-h...@maven.apache.org> > > >> >> > > >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org> > > >> >> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > --> > > >> >> > > -----> > > >> >> > > Arnaud H�ritier> > > >> >> > > http://aheritier.net> > > >> >> > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com> > > >> >> > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier> > > >> > > > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > >> > > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > > -- Sent from my phone
