On 3/9/06, Brian K. Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Jesse Kuhnert wrote:
> > I think what everyone is saying sounds more or less correct, but what is
> the
> > solution then?
> >
> > If they can't rely on a runtime container to host the site, options
> become
> > MUCH more limited.
> >
> > Complaints about the UI are fine and I'm sure everyone welcomes them,
> but
> > possible solutions that fit into the requirements of the projects
> technical
> > constraints are much more helpful :) I can't think of any really good
> > solutions off the top of my head that don't rely on runtime stuff....?
> >
>
> In thinking about what a runtime container would provide, I can't think
> of anything required on a site with no user-login / form / etc that
> would require any sort of container. I, personally, think maven-site
> does an adequate job for sites that "only a developer could love".
>
> To illustrate both my point that a runtime container isn't necessary for
> the information necessary, and a site that's more "user-geared" I
> suggest a look at Geronimo's new look (http://geronimo.apache.org). I'm
> not saying it's perfect - it's closer to Maven's current site than a
> Mozilla site - but it's definitely more "user" oriented/friendly - and
> to the best of my knowledge runs outside of a container. The difference?
> That site was designed. Maven generates sites that are coded. (And I'm
> not talking about "pretty" - more the "concise look" and "user-level
> links".) And that's more of a 'content designed' than a 'look and feel'
> design.


 I read your response, clicked on the Geronimo site, and wanted to believe
that that was possible with Maven.  But, if you look at
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/site/

It's either Maven 1.x or Ant the directory contains a v3 POM, but it also
contains an .  The NOTES.txt begins "Download Ant from http://ant.apache.org";.

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