On 10-Dec-08, at 4:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am only responding because the disagreement is public and everyone is blessed to witness it :)

Forgive the way other Apache projects might use vetoing power, but I can't see anything inappropriate about casting a -1 vote on a commit.

It's perfectly fine to cast a -1 given it's appropriate.

The vote isn't about intentions to solve or fix the problem, but the sentiment towards behavior. Especially since I can't find anything in Apache rules that make voting binding unless it's a release,

Vetos are binding which means the commit must be undone. Voting -1 on a release is actually not a veto. You need at 3 +1s and outcome a positive number of votes.

I can't find Brett to be out of line. Maybe there are some unwritten rules of etiquette here...

In sentiment no, in action yes. Go search the other Apache lists, voting -1 is a rarity and is usually associated with a technical disagreement. So you could use this an example of how not to use a -1.



Paul

Thanks,

Jason

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Jason van Zyl
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jason at sonatype dot com
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