On Sep 10, 2012, at 8:04 AM, Benson Margulies wrote:

> There are people who embed Maven, and they are likely to find it
> congenial that they can make it talk to the logging framework of their
> choice by dropping in slf4j-X as needed. For the ordinary
> command-line, Jason and I and others think that we just pick a
> backend, put the appropriate jar into M2_HOME/lib, and set up a
> reasonable default configuration, suitable tweaked by -X.
> 
> Yes, we could do like CXF and have our own -- arguably, we already do,
> with Plexus. (Mark's point, I think.) CXF has particular discontents
> with slf4J related to I18N that Maven has never cared about.
> 
> My view is that SLF4J has become so ubiquitous that the number of
> people who will find it congenial will overwhelm the number of people
> who find it inconvenient or problematic.

Yes, I think that's the conclusion that most come to.

I think most of us agree that SLF4J is the best choice for a logging facade.

That said I will finish off my branch to route everything via SLF4J. I will 
also write up how to swap out the logging implementation but to start I will 
just put in slf4j-simple. I'm not picky about the implementation because it's 
easy to change the simple implementation is the closest to the behaviour that's 
there now.

I just need to sort out how to flip over to a file when that command line 
option is set and then I'll be finished.

I'll do this tonight.

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Thanks,

Jason

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