I fear meeting the millitant arch-Linux users running in strict C64
emulation. Maybe just enable  colour by defalt for all fruity
computers ?

K

Den 8. des. 2012 kl. 13:10 skrev "Arnaud Héritier" <aherit...@gmail.com>:

> And windows which has a support near to the Amiga ;)
>
> ---------
> Arnaud
>
> Le 8 déc. 2012 à 12:55, Kristian Rosenvold
> <kristian.rosenv...@zenior.no> a écrit :
>
>> Disable color by default in batch mode then. I suppose we could detect
>> is users are running AmigaOS or aix and disable by default there too.
>>
>> Kristian
>>
>> Den 8. des. 2012 kl. 12:34 skrev Chris Graham <chrisgw...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> AIX still does not do well with ANSI style colour.
>>>
>>> And I wonder how Jenkins would cope parsing the output.
>>>
>>> Seriously 2013 soon or not, don't break the output and introduce crap into 
>>> the output stream.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 08/12/2012, at 10:14 PM, Kristian Rosenvold 
>>> <kristian.rosenv...@zenior.no> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seriously this sounds like something you'd want to configure i.
>>>> MAVEN_OPTS, so I'd be inclined to do color by default in 2012, soon
>>>> 2013.
>>>>
>>>> K
>>>>
>>>> Den 8. des. 2012 kl. 11:14 skrev Chris Graham <chrisgw...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Which is what I thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 to off by default then.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On 08/12/2012, at 9:11 PM, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ANSI_escape_code
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It adds some extras character that you'll see if the console doesn't
>>>>>> support it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> Arnaud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 8 déc. 2012 à 11:03, Chris Graham <chrisgw...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like to know how it is implemented and what happens when it is run 
>>>>>> on a
>>>>>> terminal that does not support it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Chris
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 08/12/2012, at 8:54 AM, Stephen Connolly 
>>>>>> <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 from me
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 7 December 2012, Jesse McConnell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sure hope colored logging is off by default, I hate it :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jesse mcconnell
>>>>>>
>>>>>> jesse.mcconn...@gmail.com <javascript:;>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Stephen Connolly <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am -1 on coloured logger in 3.1.0 though given the number of commits to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> core coming from me I am fine to state this is not a veto rather a very
>>>>>>
>>>>>> strong preference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am fine with proofing the coloured logger changes before releasing
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3.1.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to ensure that we have logging right but in my view user visible changes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> make API changes more solid so I am less keen to couple them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The logging changes are big enough for a separate release. I think users
>>>>>>
>>>>>> will thank us for being cautious before putting coloured logging on top
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My €0.02
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Stephen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 7 December 2012, Robert Scholte wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not about rush, it is about touching the Logging Framework while
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the majority of the end-users it won't make that much of a difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking what would make it interesting for me as an end-user to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> use
>>>>>>
>>>>>> this next release (apart from the bugfixes). We could already log and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> control the logging-level. Now colors would make it more interesting,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> even
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if we could provide it as an extension (not part of core), as long as
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, for the specialists these changes offer new opportunities, but
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that's a small group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:18:50 +0100 schreef Jason van Zyl <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ja...@tesla.io
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 7, 2012, at 12:15 PM, Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If 3.1.0 is going to be the "New Logger"-release, I'd prefer to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> include
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the colored logger as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not putting it in the release because I'm not, without discussion
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) Putting 3 logging implementations into the distribution
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) Putting an immature logging implementation as the default
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not something to be taken lightly and it's been 11 months at this point
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> what's the rush?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would make it more complete. Also, if coloring would require
>>>>>>
>>>>>> extra
>>>>>>
>>>>>> adjustments to the logging framework then now is the time. (it seems to
>>>>>>
>>>>>> work out of the box, but we have to be sure.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Op Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:04:13 +0100 schreef Benson Margulies <
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bimargul...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I see it, the vote bogged down because Kristian found problems, and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't seen clear evidence that those problems are sorted out. I'd
>>>>>>
>>>>>> be happy to vote +1 with respect to all the design questions for the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> release 'as is'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good idea, Benson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Btw, this VOTE did not get enough +1 in more than a week. And this is
>>>>>>
>>>>>> not
>>>>>>
>>>>>> because not enough people took care if you look at the plenty of
>>>>>>
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>
>>>>>> in the thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.) Do people have any technical comment on my proposal to introduce a
>>>>>>
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>
>>>>>> plugin-plugin flag for exposing slf4j? Is there any technical problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> with
>>>>>>
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there other proposals which might help increasing backward
>>>>>>
>>>>>> compatibility?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.) what about the coloured logger with log4j2? I tried it locally and
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>> worked great. What is the status? (Sorry if I missed something)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LieGrue,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> strub
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
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