The only thing I've ever knit is a scarf, in grade 5. So if you want a grade 5 
quality scarf, no problem. It will only take me a year.

On Aug 21, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Kristian Rosenvold <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Maybe you can knit something for my mac mini  flowerpot stand, the one
> that runs windows ?
> 
> Kristian
> 
> 
> 2013/8/21 Jason van Zyl <[email protected]>:
>> I agree that it would be nice to have Windows and OSX builds. But looking at 
>> our grid and that those builds are either disabled or haven't passed in 
>> months I don't think one can consider them reliable, or contribute to the 
>> notion of being releasable.
>> 
>> I can put an OSX machine in a rack, and I can help make a general way to 
>> provision and setup a run for Maven with the ITs. I have tools for this and 
>> they are just written in Java which I think is fine. Dennis, I'm happy to 
>> help with some tools if you want to try them out on a Windows machine.
>> 
>> I will consider that set of 3 as good of an indicator as we have now and if 
>> it improves great. But currently as the RM for the core, if there are 
>> improvements or bug fixes available and I want to do a release I will 
>> consider that set of three jobs being good as the core being in a releasable 
>> state. I would love an OSX build and I can look into that. I will help 
>> someone else with the Windows build, but I honestly have as the same level 
>> of proficiency with Windows as I do, say, knitting.
>> 
>> On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Dennis Lundberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> In order to get a working build of the Core ITs there are a number of steps
>>> that needs to be taken. These include checking out the source for the ITs
>>> and the version of Maven you want to test. Then there are an elaborate
>>> setup of M2_HOME local.repo and some other stuff. There is a shell script
>>> to help with this, but it is for Linux/Unix only. If you take a look at the
>>> Jenkins jobs that runs the ITs there are several platform dependent steps.
>>> 
>>> To get more people to help run the ITs in different environments, we need
>>> to make this simpler, especially for Windows. So I suggest that we put
>>> together an Ant script that can be used by all users, including CI builds,
>>> to do the necessary setup.
>>> 
>>> As for releaseability I think that we should have both the windows and osx
>>> jobs pass.
>>> 
>>> That being said, it seems that the osx installation is dead and won't be
>>> coming back any time soon, so until then we can't rely on it. We have lots
>>> of devs running osx so it shouldn't be a problem getting confirmation that
>>> the ITs pass on that platform.
>>> 
>>> Since I'm on Windows myself I'm keen to get the Windows job into a runnable
>>> state. I did some work on it before, but finally gave up because of the
>>> platform dependent steps that was needed, in combination with some
>>> limitations in the properties that are available to Jenkins on Windows. I'm
>>> willing to work on it again though.
>>> 
>>> Related to this, what's the status on Core ITs for Maven 2? Are the ITs
>>> that this thread talk about applicable to Maven 2, or does it use a
>>> different set of ITs?
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What do you mean exactly?
>>>> 
>>>> Also what about the releasability question?
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Dennis Lundberg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for looking into this Jason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As someone who has tried to fix these builds, I think what we need is a
>>>>> platform independent way to set up and run the core ITs. The best choice
>>>> is
>>>>> probably to use Ant.
>>>>> Den 20 aug 2013 16:18 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <[email protected]>:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have separated them like the following to delineate the stable builds
>>>>>> that are a reliable measure of the ITs working and things that have
>>>> either
>>>>>> been failing for months, or things we can't reasonably maintain.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If these are working I consider Maven releasable:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven%20Core%20ITs/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I put the rest of them here:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven%20Core%20ITs%20(unstable)/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If the jobs in the first group are passing can we consider that being
>>>> in a
>>>>>> reasonable state for a release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jason
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jason
>>>> 
>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Jason van Zyl
>>>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>>> 
>>>> We know what we are, but know not what we may be.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Shakespeare
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Dennis Lundberg
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> Jason van Zyl
>> Founder,  Apache Maven
>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track
>> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget
>> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful
>> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a
>> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as
>> signs of decline and decay.
>> 
>> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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