Getting back to this, I have now confirmation that that the osx node is dead. It has also been removed from Jenkins to avoid confusion. Den 21 aug 2013 15:59 skrev "Dennis Lundberg" <[email protected]>:
> Yes, both OSX and Windows jobs are unreliable in their current state. When > they are more mature we can move them from the "unstable" view to the > "stable" view. > > Let me check with [email protected] to see if they have the resources to breathe > some life into that OSX box, before setting up something external. > > I'm happy to try out any tools for Windows. I have a local Jenkins running > on Windows where I can test drive and tweak them, before they're ready to > be deployed to builds.apache.org > > The set of 3 is probably what can be trusted at the moment, but I'd also > like to get "core-integration-testing-maven-3" into the "stable" view. It > is a Java 5 build of Maven 3 master. As long as we support Java 5 it should > pass. > > > On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I agree that it would be nice to have Windows and OSX builds. But looking >> at our grid and that those builds are either disabled or haven't passed in >> months I don't think one can consider them reliable, or contribute to the >> notion of being releasable. >> >> I can put an OSX machine in a rack, and I can help make a general way to >> provision and setup a run for Maven with the ITs. I have tools for this and >> they are just written in Java which I think is fine. Dennis, I'm happy to >> help with some tools if you want to try them out on a Windows machine. >> >> I will consider that set of 3 as good of an indicator as we have now and >> if it improves great. But currently as the RM for the core, if there are >> improvements or bug fixes available and I want to do a release I will >> consider that set of three jobs being good as the core being in a >> releasable state. I would love an OSX build and I can look into that. I >> will help someone else with the Windows build, but I honestly have as the >> same level of proficiency with Windows as I do, say, knitting. >> >> On Aug 21, 2013, at 12:32 AM, Dennis Lundberg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > In order to get a working build of the Core ITs there are a number of >> steps >> > that needs to be taken. These include checking out the source for the >> ITs >> > and the version of Maven you want to test. Then there are an elaborate >> > setup of M2_HOME local.repo and some other stuff. There is a shell >> script >> > to help with this, but it is for Linux/Unix only. If you take a look at >> the >> > Jenkins jobs that runs the ITs there are several platform dependent >> steps. >> > >> > To get more people to help run the ITs in different environments, we >> need >> > to make this simpler, especially for Windows. So I suggest that we put >> > together an Ant script that can be used by all users, including CI >> builds, >> > to do the necessary setup. >> > >> > As for releaseability I think that we should have both the windows and >> osx >> > jobs pass. >> > >> > That being said, it seems that the osx installation is dead and won't be >> > coming back any time soon, so until then we can't rely on it. We have >> lots >> > of devs running osx so it shouldn't be a problem getting confirmation >> that >> > the ITs pass on that platform. >> > >> > Since I'm on Windows myself I'm keen to get the Windows job into a >> runnable >> > state. I did some work on it before, but finally gave up because of the >> > platform dependent steps that was needed, in combination with some >> > limitations in the properties that are available to Jenkins on Windows. >> I'm >> > willing to work on it again though. >> > >> > Related to this, what's the status on Core ITs for Maven 2? Are the ITs >> > that this thread talk about applicable to Maven 2, or does it use a >> > different set of ITs? >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Jason van Zyl <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> What do you mean exactly? >> >> >> >> Also what about the releasability question? >> >> >> >> On Aug 20, 2013, at 7:45 AM, Dennis Lundberg <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Thanks for looking into this Jason. >> >>> >> >>> As someone who has tried to fix these builds, I think what we need is >> a >> >>> platform independent way to set up and run the core ITs. The best >> choice >> >> is >> >>> probably to use Ant. >> >>> Den 20 aug 2013 16:18 skrev "Jason van Zyl" <[email protected]>: >> >>> >> >>>> I have separated them like the following to delineate the stable >> builds >> >>>> that are a reliable measure of the ITs working and things that have >> >> either >> >>>> been failing for months, or things we can't reasonably maintain. >> >>>> >> >>>> If these are working I consider Maven releasable: >> >>>> >> >>>> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven%20Core%20ITs/ >> >>>> >> >>>> I put the rest of them here: >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven%20Core%20ITs%20(unstable)/ >> >>>> >> >>>> If the jobs in the first group are passing can we consider that being >> >> in a >> >>>> reasonable state for a release? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Jason >> >>>> >> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> Jason van Zyl >> >>>> Founder, Apache Maven >> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jason >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Jason van Zyl >> >> Founder, Apache Maven >> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> We know what we are, but know not what we may be. >> >> >> >> -- Shakespeare >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Dennis Lundberg >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Our achievements speak for themselves. What we have to keep track >> of are our failures, discouragements and doubts. We tend to forget >> the past difficulties, the many false starts, and the painful >> groping. We see our past achievements as the end result of a >> clean forward thrust, and our present difficulties as >> signs of decline and decay. >> >> -- Eric Hoffer, Reflections on the Human Condition >> >> -- >> Dennis Lundberg > >
