+1 here. On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Anders Hammar <and...@hammar.net> wrote: > +1 on clean up if we communicate this (and explain why). > 0 on move > > /Anders > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dominik Bartholdi <d...@fortysix.ch> wrote: > >> +1 cleanup is a really good idea! >> >> On 20.01.2014, at 18:50, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > +1 with a jira cleanup (but documented and announced to users to let them >> > understand what we do and why) >> > +1 to move to ASF >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: >> > >> >> Works for me to just start over on the ASF JIRA. There are a couple >> issues >> >> I'd move but we can migrate a issues easily. What can't continue is the >> >> complete, incomprehensible mess that is there now. >> >> >> >> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Stephen Connolly < >> >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> If we are going wholesale dumping issues (and I am not against that), I >> >>> have a more radical suggestion... let's just move core to the ASF >> JIRA... >> >>> with next to no issues needing migration it would be easy ;-) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 20 January 2014 17:23, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> Really, it's more about dropping a nuclear bomb on JIRA. While trying >> to >> >>>> sift through it this weekend it's clear to me it's less than ideal in >> >> there. >> >>>> >> >>>> There are issues that are 12 years old and while there might be some >> >>>> useful information in there that we hand select, I think anything that >> >> is >> >>>> older than 5 years we should just close as incomplete because with the >> >>>> great deal of change that's happened with 3.x most of it isn't >> relevant >> >> and >> >>>> if it is, and someone cares that much then it can be reopened with a >> >>>> stand-alone working example of the problem. >> >>>> >> >>>> Now, as to the requirements for a stand-alone working example I think >> we >> >>>> should enforce this because personally I'm not going to check out >> >> someone's >> >>>> project, figure out how to interpret it in relation to the actual >> >> problem >> >>>> in Maven and then create a project I can turn into an IT. I'm just not >> >>>> going to do it generally. There might be exceptions but I don't want >> to >> >>>> read a textual examples or try to figure out snippets of a production >> >>>> project that can't be shared. In m2e we require a working example >> >> project >> >>>> to even look at a problem and if the issue sits there for a year with >> a >> >>>> working sample project we close it. >> >>>> >> >>>> Having an issue tracking system with 700 open issues is useless, so I >> >>>> would like to do a mass purge. It shouldn't really get beyond 50 open >> >>>> issues or it's just impossible to manage effectively. >> >>>> >> >>>> Not sure what anyone else thinks but our JIRA situation is just not >> >>>> effective. I'm thinking anything over 5 years old that isn't assigned >> >> to a >> >>>> core developer we just close as incomplete and then see what we're >> left >> >>>> with. If anyone complains then we point them at doco (I'll write it) >> >> about >> >>>> creating a stand-alone project because otherwise it become >> impossible. I >> >>>> spent 8 hours over the weekend looking at issues trying to interpret >> >> what >> >>>> someone was trying to say and I don't want to guess. If the user cares >> >>>> enough they can make an example project. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks, >> >>>> >> >>>> Jason >> >>>> >> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> Jason van Zyl >> >>>> Founder, Apache Maven >> >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> >> >>>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will >> >>>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will >> come >> >>>> and sit softly on your shoulder ... >> >>>> >> >>>> -- Thoreau >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Jason >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Jason van Zyl >> >> Founder, Apache Maven >> >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> believe nothing, no matter where you read it, >> >> or who has said it, >> >> not even if i have said it, >> >> unless it agrees with your own reason >> >> and your own common sense. >> >> >> >> -- Buddha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ----- >> > Arnaud Héritier >> > http://aheritier.net >> > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com >> > Twitter/Skype : aheritier >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org >> >>
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