Why create a GitHub repos if you can do them at the ASF?

If the libraries are optional, and they do not include LGPL
components, but only use them at compile/run time, then there appears
to be no reason why we can't just ask Infra for metamodel-extras.git
or whatever! :)

On 9 December 2013 22:05, Kasper Sørensen
<[email protected]> wrote:
> I didn't suggest that we would bundle this with Apache MetaModel at all.
> Rather I imagine we'll simply make a separate project on GitHub or so,
> called "MetaModel extras" which can contain these LGPL modules. They are
> entirely working as add-ons anyway, so there is a clean one-way dependency.
>
>
> 2013/12/7 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> This thread is relevant:
>>
>>
>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL+binary#query:list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss%20LGPL%20binary+page:5+mid:ye6sju2gbzt25dnp+state:results
>>
>> And so is this:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
>>
>> My take is:
>>
>> We can write against LGPL libraries, and require the user to install
>> those libraries themselves, as long as those bits of the product are
>> entirely optional.
>>
>> We cannot bundle LGPL libraries in a binary package unless we request
>> an exemption.
>>
>> On 7 December 2013 13:25, Matt Franklin <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> We can publish binary packages that include LGPL components, as long
>> >> as we communicate this very precisely.
>> >>
>> >> We can't include LGPL in a source release, but we might be able to
>> >> host a Git repository on ASF infra that includes LGPL source. As long
>> >> as we do not make any source releases from it. But I am not sure on
>> >> this point. A quick note to legal-discuss@ would clear this up. If
>> >> it's not a good idea, then yes, a Github repository would work.
>> >>
>> >
>> > AIUI, this is not a valid option.  I believe the recommended option is to
>> > host these externally and manage them outside of the Apache community.  I
>> > suggest reviewing the legal-discuss@ list archives and
>> > general@incubatorarchives, as this is not the first time this issue
>> > has arisen.
>> >
>> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.general+LGPL
>> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 22 November 2013 11:52, Kasper Sørensen
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > At Human Inference (and in the old eobjects.org community of
>> MetaModel)
>> >> we
>> >> > have a number of small projects/modules that provide the capability of
>> >> > Apache MetaModel to connect to these additional datastore types:
>> >> >
>> >> >  * SAS datasets (.sas7bdat files)
>> >> >  * dBase databases (.dbf files)
>> >> >  * MS Access databases
>> >> >
>> >> > For various reasons, these modules could not be Apache licensed, so
>> they
>> >> > have to live on somewhere else with the LGPL license. Right now
>> they're
>> >> > individually available at different SVN locations etc. etc... I would
>> >> like
>> >> > to see if we can clean that up a bit and make a package available
>> with a
>> >> > name like "MetaModel extras".
>> >> >
>> >> > Obviously without any commitment from the Apache community, I wanted
>> to
>> >> ask
>> >> > if anyone had any preference as to where and how we publish these
>> >> modules.
>> >> > I am thinking we might do something like putting them on GitHub, and
>> for
>> >> > now still use package name and Maven group id like "org.eobjects....".
>> >> >
>> >> > Kind regards,
>> >> > Kasper
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Noah Slater
>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>



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