Nice, thanks Kasper.
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]> wrote: > For everyone's information: I've consolidated the extra LGPL modules in a > GitHub project called MetaModel-extras. It can be found here: > https://github.com/datacleaner/metamodel_extras > > Specifically it covers these modules: DBase, MS Access, SAS > > I expect to do a release of that project rather soon, referring our > 4.0.0-incubating release of Apache MetaModel. If anyone has comments on the > project it is greatly appreciated! > > > 2013-12-10 Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]>: > >> Well actually one of the add-ons (the dBase module) does contain LGPL code >> that was granted with that license by the xBaseJ project, so it's a little >> bit out of our hands. And it seemed from Matt's response that this would >> definately not play well in the Apache landscape, which I guess I can >> understand and live with. >> >> >> 2013/12/9 Noah Slater <[email protected]> >> >>> Why create a GitHub repos if you can do them at the ASF? >>> >>> If the libraries are optional, and they do not include LGPL >>> components, but only use them at compile/run time, then there appears >>> to be no reason why we can't just ask Infra for metamodel-extras.git >>> or whatever! :) >>> >>> On 9 December 2013 22:05, Kasper Sørensen >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I didn't suggest that we would bundle this with Apache MetaModel at all. >>> > Rather I imagine we'll simply make a separate project on GitHub or so, >>> > called "MetaModel extras" which can contain these LGPL modules. They are >>> > entirely working as add-ons anyway, so there is a clean one-way >>> dependency. >>> > >>> > >>> > 2013/12/7 Noah Slater <[email protected]> >>> > >>> >> Thanks! >>> >> >>> >> This thread is relevant: >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL+binary#query:list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss%20LGPL%20binary+page:5+mid:ye6sju2gbzt25dnp+state:results >>> >> >>> >> And so is this: >>> >> >>> >> http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options >>> >> >>> >> My take is: >>> >> >>> >> We can write against LGPL libraries, and require the user to install >>> >> those libraries themselves, as long as those bits of the product are >>> >> entirely optional. >>> >> >>> >> We cannot bundle LGPL libraries in a binary package unless we request >>> >> an exemption. >>> >> >>> >> On 7 December 2013 13:25, Matt Franklin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> We can publish binary packages that include LGPL components, as long >>> >> >> as we communicate this very precisely. >>> >> >> >>> >> >> We can't include LGPL in a source release, but we might be able to >>> >> >> host a Git repository on ASF infra that includes LGPL source. As >>> long >>> >> >> as we do not make any source releases from it. But I am not sure on >>> >> >> this point. A quick note to legal-discuss@ would clear this up. If >>> >> >> it's not a good idea, then yes, a Github repository would work. >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > AIUI, this is not a valid option. I believe the recommended option >>> is to >>> >> > host these externally and manage them outside of the Apache >>> community. I >>> >> > suggest reviewing the legal-discuss@ list archives and >>> >> > general@incubatorarchives, as this is not the first time this issue >>> >> > has arisen. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.general+LGPL >>> >> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >> On 22 November 2013 11:52, Kasper Sørensen >>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >> > Hi all, >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > At Human Inference (and in the old eobjects.org community of >>> >> MetaModel) >>> >> >> we >>> >> >> > have a number of small projects/modules that provide the >>> capability of >>> >> >> > Apache MetaModel to connect to these additional datastore types: >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > * SAS datasets (.sas7bdat files) >>> >> >> > * dBase databases (.dbf files) >>> >> >> > * MS Access databases >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > For various reasons, these modules could not be Apache licensed, >>> so >>> >> they >>> >> >> > have to live on somewhere else with the LGPL license. Right now >>> >> they're >>> >> >> > individually available at different SVN locations etc. etc... I >>> would >>> >> >> like >>> >> >> > to see if we can clean that up a bit and make a package available >>> >> with a >>> >> >> > name like "MetaModel extras". >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Obviously without any commitment from the Apache community, I >>> wanted >>> >> to >>> >> >> ask >>> >> >> > if anyone had any preference as to where and how we publish these >>> >> >> modules. >>> >> >> > I am thinking we might do something like putting them on GitHub, >>> and >>> >> for >>> >> >> > now still use package name and Maven group id like >>> "org.eobjects....". >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Kind regards, >>> >> >> > Kasper >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> -- >>> >> >> Noah Slater >>> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Noah Slater >>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Noah Slater >>> https://twitter.com/nslater >>> >> >>
