For everyone's information: I've consolidated the extra LGPL modules in a
GitHub project called MetaModel-extras. It can be found here:
https://github.com/datacleaner/metamodel_extras

Specifically it covers these modules: DBase, MS Access, SAS

I expect to do a release of that project rather soon, referring our
4.0.0-incubating release of Apache MetaModel. If anyone has comments on the
project it is greatly appreciated!


2013-12-10 Kasper Sørensen <[email protected]>:

> Well actually one of the add-ons (the dBase module) does contain LGPL code
> that was granted with that license by the xBaseJ project, so it's a little
> bit out of our hands. And it seemed from Matt's response that this would
> definately not play well in the Apache landscape, which I guess I can
> understand and live with.
>
>
> 2013/12/9 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
>
>> Why create a GitHub repos if you can do them at the ASF?
>>
>> If the libraries are optional, and they do not include LGPL
>> components, but only use them at compile/run time, then there appears
>> to be no reason why we can't just ask Infra for metamodel-extras.git
>> or whatever! :)
>>
>> On 9 December 2013 22:05, Kasper Sørensen
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I didn't suggest that we would bundle this with Apache MetaModel at all.
>> > Rather I imagine we'll simply make a separate project on GitHub or so,
>> > called "MetaModel extras" which can contain these LGPL modules. They are
>> > entirely working as add-ons anyway, so there is a clean one-way
>> dependency.
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/12/7 Noah Slater <[email protected]>
>> >
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> This thread is relevant:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL+binary#query:list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss%20LGPL%20binary+page:5+mid:ye6sju2gbzt25dnp+state:results
>> >>
>> >> And so is this:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.apache.org/legal/3party.html#options
>> >>
>> >> My take is:
>> >>
>> >> We can write against LGPL libraries, and require the user to install
>> >> those libraries themselves, as long as those bits of the product are
>> >> entirely optional.
>> >>
>> >> We cannot bundle LGPL libraries in a binary package unless we request
>> >> an exemption.
>> >>
>> >> On 7 December 2013 13:25, Matt Franklin <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Noah Slater <[email protected]>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> We can publish binary packages that include LGPL components, as long
>> >> >> as we communicate this very precisely.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> We can't include LGPL in a source release, but we might be able to
>> >> >> host a Git repository on ASF infra that includes LGPL source. As
>> long
>> >> >> as we do not make any source releases from it. But I am not sure on
>> >> >> this point. A quick note to legal-discuss@ would clear this up. If
>> >> >> it's not a good idea, then yes, a Github repository would work.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > AIUI, this is not a valid option.  I believe the recommended option
>> is to
>> >> > host these externally and manage them outside of the Apache
>> community.  I
>> >> > suggest reviewing the legal-discuss@ list archives and
>> >> > general@incubatorarchives, as this is not the first time this issue
>> >> > has arisen.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.general+LGPL
>> >> > http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.legal-discuss+LGPL
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 22 November 2013 11:52, Kasper Sørensen
>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > At Human Inference (and in the old eobjects.org community of
>> >> MetaModel)
>> >> >> we
>> >> >> > have a number of small projects/modules that provide the
>> capability of
>> >> >> > Apache MetaModel to connect to these additional datastore types:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >  * SAS datasets (.sas7bdat files)
>> >> >> >  * dBase databases (.dbf files)
>> >> >> >  * MS Access databases
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For various reasons, these modules could not be Apache licensed,
>> so
>> >> they
>> >> >> > have to live on somewhere else with the LGPL license. Right now
>> >> they're
>> >> >> > individually available at different SVN locations etc. etc... I
>> would
>> >> >> like
>> >> >> > to see if we can clean that up a bit and make a package available
>> >> with a
>> >> >> > name like "MetaModel extras".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Obviously without any commitment from the Apache community, I
>> wanted
>> >> to
>> >> >> ask
>> >> >> > if anyone had any preference as to where and how we publish these
>> >> >> modules.
>> >> >> > I am thinking we might do something like putting them on GitHub,
>> and
>> >> for
>> >> >> > now still use package name and Maven group id like
>> "org.eobjects....".
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Kind regards,
>> >> >> > Kasper
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Noah Slater
>> >> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Noah Slater
>> >> https://twitter.com/nslater
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Noah Slater
>> https://twitter.com/nslater
>>
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