Right.  I think we would just have to Dockerize whatever bits are needed
for specific "scenarios" as Katakoda calls them. At least, that is what I
am hoping.

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 3:00 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, so we are not talking about dockerizing all of metron for this then.
>
>
> On October 26, 2018 at 14:52:27, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote:
>
> From what I can tell, Katakoda functions mainly through hosting Docker
> containers. So if I were to create Katakoda demo like "Introduction to
> Stellar REPL", I would need to create a Docker container that hosts the
> Stellar REPL.  As a user works through your demo, Katakoda launches and
> hosts your container for each user session. That is my assumption from
> looking through some of the demos that currently exist.
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 2:42 PM Otto Fowler <ottobackwa...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What is the metron on docker part?
>>
>>
>> On October 26, 2018 at 14:37:48, Nick Allen (n...@nickallen.org) wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah I would +1 katakoda.
>>
>> Has anyone used or have a history with KataKoda? I'd hate to invest time
>> in a hosted solution if the provider isn't going to be around. That's a
>> definite 'con' to taking that approach.
>>
>> Although most of the effort would be invested in "Metron on Docker" which
>> might have value outside of KataKoda. And some level of work has already
>> been done on Docker.
>>
>>
>> > I also think that it would help to start distributing RPMs, DEBs, and
>> the
>> mpacks with the releases..
>>
>> Agreed. I was thinking that whatever solution falls out of this discussion
>> might require RPMs, DEBs, Maven Central, etc as prerequisites. Although
>> each of those have value in their own right.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 1:42 PM zeo...@gmail.com <zeo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Yeah I would +1 katakoda. I also think that it would help to start
>> > distributing RPMs, DEBs, and the mpacks with the releases, as well as
>> > consider a service like opensuse's build service for nightlies, etc.
>> >
>> > Jon
>> >
>> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 6:25 AM Anand Subramanian <
>> > asubraman...@hortonworks.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Great idea! This will be a HUGE improvement in the user experience for
>> > > first timers to Metron. Katakoda seems very interesting - simple and
>> > > straight-forward. I loved the way you can provide instructions,
>> commands
>> > > (that can be directly clicked!), links, explanation and so on.
>> > >
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Anand
>> > >
>> > > ´╗┐On 10/25/18, 7:49 PM, "Nick Allen" <n...@nickallen.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > We all know spinning up the development environment is a pain.
>> > > Unfortunately, it is the only way for a new user to get a feel for
>> > > Metron.
>> > > We need a better way to introduce new users to Metron.
>> > >
>> > > I am hoping we can brainstorm ways to improve that experience. Here
>> > > are a
>> > > few thoughts that might help start a discussion.
>> > >
>> > > (1) Create a *KataKoda* [1] based demo. I ran across this after
>> > > finding
>> > > Apache Ozone's demo [2], which I think is great.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > - A user does not need to download or install anything. It is a
>> > > completely hosted offering.
>> > > - Provides a step-by-step demo experience that could guide
>> > users
>> > > through creating an enrichment, defining a profile, managing
>> > > alerts.
>> > > - Would require a Metron on Docker solution.
>> > >
>> > > (2) Create a *Vagrant Cloud* [3] hosted image of "Full Dev" with
>> > > everything
>> > > installed and ready to rock. A user would just need to install
>> > > Vagrant and
>> > > run:
>> > >
>> > > vagrant init metron/0.6.0
>> > >
>> > > vagrant up
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > - Reduces the number of dependencies needed to get Metron
>> > > up-and-running.
>> > > - Significantly increases the success rate of new users getting
>> > > Metron running.
>> > > - Still results in "Full Dev" Metron which requires too many
>> > > resources for the average computer.
>> > >
>> > > Are these good options? What other approaches could we take?
>> > Hopefully
>> > > some JIRAs might fall out of this discussion.
>> > >
>> > > - Nick
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > [1] https://www.katacoda.com
>> > > [2] https://www.katacoda.com/elek/scenarios/ozone101
>> > > [3] https://app.vagrantup.com/boxes/search
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> >
>> > Jon Zeolla
>> >
>>
>>

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