Hello,

And how are you planning to create those repositories?

What about the board reports that have not been received in months?

John

On 2018/02/09 16:31:11, Kealan Mccusker <kealan.mccus...@miracl.com> wrote: 
> Hi Giorgio
> 
> It was designed for the internet of things but we are now using it in many
> settings.
> It is a very easy to understand, side channel resistant library that is
> provided in
> common dev languages.
> 
> What we would like to do, as stated above, is create a number of repos for
> the
> language versions;
> 
> milagro-crypto-c
> milagro-crypto-js
> milagro-crypto-java
> milagro-crypto-go
> 
> Please read the pdf included which has an introduction to the library.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Kealan
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 3:06 PM, Giorgio Zoppi <giorgio.zo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Again which is the target of miracle? How does differentiate this from
> > OpenSSL or Botan for example?
> >
> >
> > 2018-02-09 5:23 GMT+01:00 Go Yamamoto <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp>:
> >
> > > Simeon, please tell us whatever you need.
> > > I think it is obvious that the leadership team is responsible to present
> > a
> > > roadmap.
> > > I will be always willing to participate or to help.
> > >
> > > Go
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:01 PM
> > > To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > >
> > > If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some tickets to me
> > > and i will help.
> > >
> > > 2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem <simeon.alad...@miracl.com>:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able to
> > > > participate in the discussion.
> > > >
> > > > Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really clear how
> > > > this needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> > > > None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate the
> > > > project repositories, and AFAIK, only the project mentors can do that,
> > > > but what needs to be done in order for this to happen, hasn't been
> > clear.
> > > > This was one of our pain points along the way.
> > > >
> > > > Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have resources
> > > > to lead the project, but the question is - in a community like this,
> > > > who is responsible to craft a roadmap?
> > > > The discussed direction is to focus the project on the crypto library,
> > > > with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess if/when NTT take the
> > > > leading role on the project, they can propose a roadmap.
> > > >
> > > > We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with full
> > > > unit-test coverage, which we can merge to the project when we
> > > > figure-out the repositories issue.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards,
> > > > Simeon Aladjem
> > > >
> > > > On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto" <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the roadmap.
> > > >     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto library
> > > > first, and then the authentication server/clients second.  What do we
> > > > need to authorize the plan?
> > > >
> > > >     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have found no
> > > > problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
> > > >     It could be better to work for test codes more before the crypto
> > > > library released since the current code does not seem to cover
> > > > sub-normal cases necessarily.
> > > >     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes are
> > > > required for the first release, they will at least help further
> > > > development activities.
> > > >
> > > >     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible contributions on
> > > > test codes.
> > > >     I believe the code will help users and developers if they are
> > merged.
> > > >
> > > >     Regards,
> > > >     Go Yamamoto
> > > >
> > > >     -----Original Message-----
> > > >     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com]
> > > >     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
> > > >     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
> > > >     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >
> > > >     BTW,
> > > >     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware as well? IS
> > > > there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
> > > >
> > > >     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <giorgio.zo...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > >
> > > >     > Hello everybody,
> > > >     > is there any way to save just the crypto library inside Apache?
> > The
> > > >     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
> > > >     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used from other
> > > >     > projects. Currently there is no community.
> > > >     >
> > > >     >
> > > >     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org
> > >:
> > > >     >
> > > >     >> Simeon,
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to make sure Go
> > > >     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm not sure
> > > > that has happened.
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> John
> > > >     >>
> > > >     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem
> > > > <simeon.alad...@miracl.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >     >> > Hi all,
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide our
> > > perspective
> > > >     >> > on
> > > >     >> the project.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to move the
> > Milagro
> > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > >     >> code elsewhere.
> > > >     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to the crypto
> > > >     >> > repository
> > > >     >> that is under Apache, so https://github.com/milagro-crypto
> > > doesn't
> > > >     >> directly affect the project at the current.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the original
> > Milagro
> > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > >     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
> > > >     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some repository
> > > >     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past, to the best
> > > > of my
> > > >     >> memory.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to the Milagro
> > > >     >> > Crypto
> > > >     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in the project
> > > for
> > > >     >> the last year or so.
> > > >     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go Yamamoto
> > > > will take
> > > >     >> > on
> > > >     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help on getting
> > > the
> > > >     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > Kind Regards,
> > > >     >> > Simeon Aladjem
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament" <johndam...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the head.
> > The
> > > >     >> project was originally founded with a donation from MIRACL.  You
> > > can
> > > >     >> see that code changes continually go to
> > > >     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to Apache
> > > > hosted git repositories.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the implications I am
> > > > seeing
> > > >     >> > are
> > > >     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within the
> > podling.
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> >     John
> > > >     >> >
> > > >     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
> > > >     >> > <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
> > > >     >> wrote:
> > > >     >> >     > Hi John,
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto library.
> > > >     >> > Retirement
> > > >     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would like to ask
> > > for
> > > >     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is ready to
> > > > commit.
> > > >     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
> > > >     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache repository
> > > is
> > > >     >> > not
> > > >     >> clear for us.
> > > >     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code from MIRACL
> > > is
> > > >     >> > not
> > > >     >> placed on the Apache repository.
> > > >     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated continuously,
> > > it
> > > >     >> > seems
> > > >     >> this management problem blocks starting the project for years.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take over
> > the
> > > >     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the problem.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > Kind regards,
> > > >     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
> > > >     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndam...@apache.org]
> > > >     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
> > > >     >> >     > To: d...@milagro.apache.org
> > > >     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > Hi All,
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project about
> > > > retirement.
> > > >     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to help out
> > > > the project.
> > > >     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
> > > >     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This has
> > included
> > > >     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
> > > >     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the move of
> > > > source
> > > >     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have been
> > > unanswered.
> > > >     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly nothing.
> > > >     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your repositories
> > > > have
> > > >     >> > not
> > > >     >> been updated since we last spoke.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro should
> > > > retire.
> > > >     >> >     >
> > > >     >> >     > [1]:
> > > >     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> > > > e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
> > > >     >> ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org%3E
> > > >     >> >     >
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