If there is a clear roadmap. You can decide to assign some tickets to me
and i will help.

2018-02-07 10:13 GMT+01:00 Simeon Aladjem <simeon.alad...@miracl.com>:

> Hello,
>
> Sorry for being out of pocket for a while and not being able to
> participate in the discussion.
>
> Re the repositories reorganization - it hasn't been really clear how this
> needs to be done from a procedural stand point.
> None of the contributors have the permissions to manipulate the project
> repositories, and AFAIK, only the project mentors can do that, but what
> needs to be done in order for this to happen, hasn't been clear.
> This was one of our pain points along the way.
>
> Re the roadmap - as I already mentioned, MIRACL didn't have resources to
> lead the project, but the question is - in a community like this, who is
> responsible to craft a roadmap?
> The discussed direction is to focus the project on the crypto library,
> with which MIRACL and NTT agree, and I guess if/when NTT take the leading
> role on the project, they can propose a roadmap.
>
> We also have a more developed version of the crypto, with full unit-test
> coverage, which we can merge to the project when we figure-out the
> repositories issue.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Simeon Aladjem
>
> On 5/2/18, 6:49, "Go Yamamoto" <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp> wrote:
>
>     We have been talking with Simeon and Kealan about the roadmap.
>     We think it will make sense if we release the crypto library first,
> and then the authentication server/clients second.  What do we need to
> authorize the plan?
>
>     So far the code in the library looks mature and we have found no
> problems in actual use in our engineering activities.
>     It could be better to work for test codes more before the crypto
> library released since the current code does not seem to cover sub-normal
> cases necessarily.
>     It does not mean I think the improvements on test codes are required
> for the first release, they will at least help further development
> activities.
>
>     BTW, our repository contains a lot of possible contributions on test
> codes.
>     I believe the code will help users and developers if they are merged.
>
>     Regards,
>     Go Yamamoto
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Giorgio Zoppi [mailto:giorgio.zo...@gmail.com]
>     Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2018 6:29 AM
>     To: dev@milagro.incubator.apache.org
>     Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>
>     BTW,
>     do you have a roadmap? Do you want to support hardware as well? IS
> there  a todo list of things? When do you plan next release?
>
>     2018-01-30 22:26 GMT+01:00 Giorgio Zoppi <giorgio.zo...@gmail.com>:
>
>     > Hello everybody,
>     > is there any way to save just the crypto library inside Apache? The
>     > server  doenst make sense, there is no valuable code.
>     > The crypto library including mpin protocol can be used from other
>     > projects. Currently there is no community.
>     >
>     >
>     > 2018-01-30 22:12 GMT+01:00 John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>:
>     >
>     >> Simeon,
>     >>
>     >> In order for that to happen, someone would need to make sure Go
>     >> Yamamoto has write access to the repositories.  I'm not sure that
> has happened.
>     >>
>     >> John
>     >>
>     >> On 2018/01/30 14:49:07, Simeon Aladjem <simeon.alad...@miracl.com>
> wrote:
>     >> > Hi all,
>     >> >
>     >> > As a part of MIRACL, I feel that I have to provide our perspective
>     >> > on
>     >> the project.
>     >> >
>     >> > First of all, we did disengage with the idea to move the Milagro
>     >> > Crypto
>     >> code elsewhere.
>     >> > All the code under the Milagro project refers to the crypto
>     >> > repository
>     >> that is under Apache, so https://github.com/milagro-crypto doesn't
>     >> directly affect the project at the current.
>     >> >
>     >> > It does contain a more developed version of the original Milagro
>     >> > Crypto
>     >> code, which will eventually find its way to the project,
>     >> > but in order for this to happen we will need some repository
>     >> reorganization, which was communicated in the past, to the best of
> my
>     >> memory.
>     >> >
>     >> > MIRACL is committed to continue and contribute to the Milagro
>     >> > Crypto
>     >> code, but we were unable to play the leading role in the project for
>     >> the last year or so.
>     >> > For this reason, it was proposed that NTT and Go Yamamoto will
> take
>     >> > on
>     >> the leadership over the project going forward.
>     >> >
>     >> > I hope that it clarifies some points, and will help on getting the
>     >> project out of the mud and to start moving it forward.
>     >> >
>     >> > Kind Regards,
>     >> > Simeon Aladjem
>     >> >
>     >> > On 30/1/18, 15:54, "John D.Ament" <johndam...@apache.org> wrote:
>     >> >
>     >> >     Hi Yamamoto
>     >> >
>     >> >     I believe you're hitting the problem right on the head.  The
>     >> project was originally founded with a donation from MIRACL.  You can
>     >> see that code changes continually go to
>     >> https://github.com/milagro-crypto but no changes to Apache hosted
> git repositories.
>     >> >
>     >> >     I understand your frustration, but the implications I am
> seeing
>     >> > are
>     >> that MIRACL has no interest in working on code within the podling.
>     >> >
>     >> >     John
>     >> >
>     >> >     On 2018/01/30 05:17:42, "Go Yamamoto"
>     >> > <yamamoto...@lab.ntt.co.jp>
>     >> wrote:
>     >> >     > Hi John,
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > NTT is currently using Milagro as a crypto library.
>     >> > Retirement
>     >> of Milagro causes impact on our business, so I would like to ask for
>     >> discussion what can we do for supporting Milagro.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > As I mentioned last time, we have code that is ready to
> commit.
>     >> >     > Our repositories have been updated since then.
>     >> >     > However, the way to commit the code to Apache repository is
>     >> > not
>     >> clear for us.
>     >> >     > As far as I recognize it is because the code from MIRACL is
>     >> > not
>     >> placed on the Apache repository.
>     >> >     > Since MIRACL's code also have been updated continuously, it
>     >> > seems
>     >> this management problem blocks starting the project for years.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > I think we can discuss whether NTT team can take over the
>     >> management of the Apache repository to resolve the problem.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > Kind regards,
>     >> >     > Go Yamamoto
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > -----Original Message-----
>     >> >     > From: John D. Ament [mailto:johndam...@apache.org]
>     >> >     > Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 1:06 PM
>     >> >     > To: d...@milagro.apache.org
>     >> >     > Subject: [DISCUSS] Retire Milagro
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > Hi All,
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > Mid last year [1] I reached out to the project about
> retirement.
>     >> At that point, some community members stepped up to help out the
> project.
>     >> However, I don't believe its been enough.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > Since that has occurred:
>     >> >     > - Milagro has missed reporting periods.  This has included
>     >> multiple requests for a report by me.
>     >> >     > - Requests for a special report clarifying the move of
> source
>     >> code away from the ASF managed repos on github have been unanswered.
>     >> >     > - On list activity has dropped to nearly nothing.
>     >> >     > - Very little commit activity; most of your repositories
> have
>     >> > not
>     >> been updated since we last spoke.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > At this point, I believe its clear that Milagro should
> retire.
>     >> >     >
>     >> >     > [1]:
>     >> >     > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/
> e6a5db6fab6c61156c2101a
>     >> ae003ed576ddb0e77f3bb2c037b405131@%3Cdev.milagro.apache.org%3E
>     >> >     >
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>     >> >     >
>     >> >
>     >> >
>     >>
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