I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if very well run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing communities". http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community as a whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way" quite well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that community is being built and the community as a whole is owning the process.
Hope this helps, regards, Patrick On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they do it > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search through > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings running > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do it. > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response to the > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I didn't think > that the incubator report might not be read back. > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > >> Patrick, >> >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback with >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't see the >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. >> >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page of all >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that information >> here: >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic >> >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote, that's a >> great sign. >> >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the committer >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company >> affiliations). >> >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to podlings to >> get >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving forward yet >> due to $reasons. >> >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: >> >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling report? Do >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in the past >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single person. >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are around >> > diversity. >> > >> > Patrick >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs >> >> >> >> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be ready to >> get >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to the >> >> processes >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with your >> mentoring >> >> and guidance if no objection today >> >> >> >> - Community graduation vote >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote >> >> >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html >> >> Very truly yours >> >> +Gary >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi John >> >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. >> >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more people to >> >> join >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and already >> get >> >> > interested as i known. >> >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business so I >> think >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated in time if >> >> > qualified. >> >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic, I'm also >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP. >> >> > >> >> > Thanks! >> >> > Very truly yours >> >> > Gary >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> >> wrote: >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, >> >> > > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth and well >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys to >> graduate? >> >> > > >> >> > > John >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > > - Andy > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. - Raymond > Teller (via Peter Watts) >
