It seems that we are ready to be a top level project . We have a stable release and we work well as a apache community under the guidance of our mentors. Any thoughts?
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote: > Dear John and Patrick, > > Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the construction of Mnemonic > Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache server hosted > website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated community > members. we also have redirected the visitors from Github to our Apache > server hosted website by providing a forward link in project README.md > file. Please review it as follows. > > http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/ > > Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this website, please > clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode. > > Very truly yours. > Gary > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > Hi patrick, > > > > I recently raised an issue with the website to the team. I personally > > would like to see that fixed before a graduation. Specifically saying > that > > you need to learn it from github. > > > > John > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase > community > > > involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I feel > > that > > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is interest > in > > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel > you're > > > ready to graduate at this point? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new > committers > > >> from different organizations. We have had contributions from other > > >> companies like Cisco recently. > > >> > > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more committers. > > >> > > >> cheers > > >> debo > > >> > > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if > very > > >> well > > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about > > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing > > >> communities". > > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community > > >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community > > as > > >> a > > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way" > > >> quite > > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that > > >> community is > > >> > being built and the community as a whole is owning the process. > > >> > > > >> > Hope this helps, regards, > > >> > > > >> > Patrick > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they > do > > >> it > > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search > > >> > through > > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings > > >> > running > > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do > > it. > > >> > > > > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response > to > > >> the > > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I > didn't > > >> think > > >> > > that the incubator report might not be read back. > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament < > > johndam...@apache.org> > > >> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > >> Patrick, > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback > with > > >> > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't > see > > >> the > > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page > of > > >> all > > >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that > > information > > >> > >> here: > > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic > > >> > >> > > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote, > > >> > that's a > > >> > >> great sign. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the > > >> > committer > > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company > > >> > >> affiliations). > > >> > >> > > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to > > podlings > > >> to > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving > > forward > > >> yet > > >> > >> due to $reasons. > > >> > >> > > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling > > >> report? > > >> > Do > > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in > > the > > >> > past > > >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single > > >> person. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are > > >> around > > >> > >> > diversity. > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > Patrick > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > ga...@apache.org > > >> > > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be > > >> ready to > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to > > the > > >> > >> >> processes > > >> > >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with > your > > >> > >> mentoring > > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> - Community graduation vote > > >> > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status > > >> > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html > > >> > >> >> Very truly yours > > >> > >> >> +Gary > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang < > > >> ga...@apache.org> > > >> > >> >> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > Hi John > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more > > >> people > > >> > to > > >> > >> >> join > > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and > > >> > already > > >> > >> get > > >> > >> >> > interested as i known. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business > > so I > > >> > >> think > > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated > in > > >> time > > >> > if > > >> > >> >> > qualified. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic, > > I'm > > >> > also > > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP. > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > Thanks! > > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours > > >> > >> >> > Gary > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament < > johndam...@apache.org > > > > > >> > >> wrote: > > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth > > and > > >> > well > > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys > to > > >> > >> graduate? > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > John > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > -- > > >> > > Best regards, > > >> > > > > >> > > - Andy > > >> > > > > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. - > > >> Raymond > > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts) > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >