It seems that we are ready to be a top level project .  We have a stable
release and we work well as a apache community under the guidance of our
mentors.   Any thoughts?



On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:00 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> wrote:

> Dear John and Patrick,
>
> Thank you for the guidance, we have completed the construction of Mnemonic
> Website recently according to your feedback, this Apache server hosted
> website will be kept up to date and maintained by dedicated community
> members.  we also have redirected the visitors from Github to our Apache
> server hosted website by providing a forward link in project README.md
> file. Please review it as follows.
>
> http://mnemonic.incubator.apache.org/
>
> Note: the browser cache may cause unexpected view of this website, please
> clear browser cache or visit it in incognito mode.
>
> Very truly yours.
> Gary
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 6:04 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi patrick,
> >
> > I recently raised an issue with the website to the team.  I personally
> > would like to see that fixed before a graduation.  Specifically saying
> that
> > you need to learn it from github.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:15 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase
> community
> > > involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I feel
> > that
> > > my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is interest
> in
> > > the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel
> you're
> > > ready to graduate at this point?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new
> committers
> > >> from different organizations. We have had contributions from other
> > >> companies like Cisco recently.
> > >>
> > >> This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more committers.
> > >>
> > >> cheers
> > >> debo
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if
> very
> > >> well
> > >> > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about
> > >> > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing
> > >> communities".
> > >> > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community
> > >> > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community
> > as
> > >> a
> > >> > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way"
> > >> quite
> > >> > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that
> > >> community is
> > >> > being built and the community as a whole is owning the process.
> > >> >
> > >> > Hope this helps, regards,
> > >> >
> > >> > Patrick
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org
> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they
> do
> > >> it
> > >> > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search
> > >> > through
> > >> > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings
> > >> > running
> > >> > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do
> > it.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response
> to
> > >> the
> > >> > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I
> didn't
> > >> think
> > >> > > that the incubator report might not be read back.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <
> > johndam...@apache.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Patrick,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I read it.  I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback
> with
> > >> > >> Mnemonic directly?  I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't
> see
> > >> the
> > >> > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page
> of
> > >> all
> > >> > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that
> > information
> > >> > >> here:
> > >> > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote,
> > >> > that's a
> > >> > >> great sign.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the
> > >> > committer
> > >> > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company
> > >> > >> affiliations).
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to
> > podlings
> > >> to
> > >> > >> get
> > >> > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving
> > forward
> > >> yet
> > >> > >> due to $reasons.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling
> > >> report?
> > >> > Do
> > >> > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in
> > the
> > >> > past
> > >> > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single
> > >> person.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are
> > >> around
> > >> > >> > diversity.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > Patrick
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > ga...@apache.org
> > >> >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be
> > >> ready to
> > >> > >> get
> > >> > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to
> > the
> > >> > >> >> processes
> > >> > >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with
> your
> > >> > >> mentoring
> > >> > >> >> and guidance if no objection today
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>    - Community graduation vote
> > >> > >> >>    - IPMC recommendation vote
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status
> > >> > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html
> > >> > >> >> Very truly yours
> > >> > >> >> +Gary
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <
> > >> ga...@apache.org>
> > >> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >> > Hi John
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more
> > >> people
> > >> > to
> > >> > >> >> join
> > >> > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and
> > >> > already
> > >> > >> get
> > >> > >> >> > interested as i known.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business
> > so I
> > >> > >> think
> > >> > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated
> in
> > >> time
> > >> > if
> > >> > >> >> > qualified.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic,
> > I'm
> > >> > also
> > >> > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP.
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > Thanks!
> > >> > >> >> > Very truly yours
> > >> > >> >> > Gary
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament <
> johndam...@apache.org
> > >
> > >> > >> wrote:
> > >> > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC,
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth
> > and
> > >> > well
> > >> > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys
> to
> > >> > >> graduate?
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> > > John
> > >> > >> >> > >
> > >> > >> >> >
> > >> > >> >>
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Best regards,
> > >> > >
> > >> > >    - Andy
> > >> > >
> > >> > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. -
> > >> Raymond
> > >> > > Teller (via Peter Watts)
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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