Given the recent work to bring on additional RMs (and increase community involvement in general) and clearly document release procedures I feel that my previous concerns have been largely addressed. If there is interest in the community I would now be in favor, but up to you - do you feel you're ready to graduate at this point?
Regards, Patrick On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:30 PM, Debojyoti Dutta <ddu...@apache.org> wrote: > On the diversity issue, we are trying to solve that with new committers > from different organizations. We have had contributions from other > companies like Cisco recently. > > This space is about to heat up soon and we will see more committers. > > cheers > debo > > On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > > I've mentored a number of podlings over the years and this one if very > well > > run and is on a good trajectory. As noted my main concern is about > > diversity - in particular "self-sustaining and self-governing > communities". > > http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#community > > That's pretty clear and concise statements from the Apache community as a > > whole as to what it takes. The podling is following "the apache way" > quite > > well, so it's really the sustaining part for me. Ensuring that community > is > > being built and the community as a whole is owning the process. > > > > Hope this helps, regards, > > > > Patrick > > > > On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> > > wrote: > > > > > For me the best test if a podling is ready for graduation is they do it > > > (mostly) for themselves. So, Mnemonic, I'd encourage you to search > > through > > > the incubator mailing list archives for examples of other podlings > > running > > > a graduation vote and submitting the result to the IPMC. Then, do it. > > > > > > I'm glad to see the recent move to bring in more RMs in response to the > > > earlier feedback, now that everyone is aware of it. Sorry, I didn't > think > > > that the incubator report might not be read back. > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 5:42 PM, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Patrick, > > >> > > >> I read it. I'm curious, did you or Andrew share your feedback with > > >> Mnemonic directly? I've noticed that podlings sometimes don't see the > > >> input, and don't receive responses the way TLPs do. > > >> > > >> For the podling's information, we do also maintain a whimsy page of > all > > >> approved board reports per project, Mnemonic can see that information > > >> here: > > >> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Mnemonic > > >> > > >> When I see a podling receiving 5 +1's on a dev list release vote, > > that's a > > >> great sign. > > >> > > >> There probably is room for more on list discussion, and yes the > > committer > > >> diversity isn't 100% there (I would be curious to see company > > >> affiliations). > > >> > > >> I'll also point out that I sometimes ask these questions to podlings > to > > >> get > > >> them to start thinking about graduation, not actually moving forward > yet > > >> due to $reasons. > > >> > > >> On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 2:58 PM Patrick Hunt <ph...@apache.org> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Hi John, did you read my feedback on the most recent podling report? > > Do > > >> > you disagree? I don't believe this has changed significantly in the > > past > > >> > month/two. For example all releases have been done by a single > person. > > >> > > > >> > https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2017 > > >> > > > >> > As I've mentioned previously my only concerns at this point are > around > > >> > diversity. > > >> > > > >> > Patrick > > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> Hi John and PPMCs > > >> >> > > >> >> As John advised, our community and project mnemonic might be ready > to > > >> get > > >> >> graduated, I'd like to start the following votes according to the > > >> >> processes > > >> >> of http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html with your > > >> mentoring > > >> >> and guidance if no objection today > > >> >> > > >> >> - Community graduation vote > > >> >> - IPMC recommendation vote > > >> >> > > >> >> Mnemonic Project Incubation Status > > >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/mnemonic.html > > >> >> Very truly yours > > >> >> +Gary > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 11:26 PM, Gang(Gary) Wang <ga...@apache.org > > > > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> > Hi John > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thank you for starting this discussion. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Yes, our community is growing and continue to attract more people > > to > > >> >> join > > >> >> > our community. Some industry users are aware of mnemonic and > > already > > >> get > > >> >> > interested as i known. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Mnemonic is able to deliver unique values to their business so I > > >> think > > >> >> > that it is very important for us to get mnemonic graduated in > time > > if > > >> >> > qualified. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > My 2 cents, looks nothing left for us to graduate Mnemonic, I'm > > also > > >> >> > looking forward to propose our project as Apache TLP. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > Thanks! > > >> >> > Very truly yours > > >> >> > Gary > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On Tuesday, May 2, 2017, John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org> > > >> wrote: > > >> >> > > Hi Mnemonic PPMC, > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > After looking at your recent release, your current growth and > > well > > >> >> > functioning PPMC, was wondering what was left for you guys to > > >> graduate? > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > John > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Best regards, > > > > > > - Andy > > > > > > If you are given a choice, you believe you have acted freely. - Raymond > > > Teller (via Peter Watts) > > > > > >
