I don't want to argue here, as "Apache way" also says VOTE should not be a way to enforce our opinion, and consensus need to be reached through discussion
Thanks! Tianqi On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:41 PM, Tianqi Chen <[email protected]> wrote: > Then who should represent the users who are using the forums but not the > mail-list? I personally think it is a bit abuse use of the term "Apache > way" to force our mind into the entire community... Maybe I am wrong.. > > Tianqi > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Sergio Fernández <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Well, I do respect what you discussed in that meetup, if course. But for >> those who weren't there, maybe the decision taken what a bit bias. >> >> In Apache we like to say that "if it didn't happen on the mailing list s, >> it didn't happen" ;-) >> >> Look like there are different feelings about this. Should I cast a VOTE? >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:27 Tianqi Chen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > I do think we are targeting all the community, but we must also agree >> that >> > the voice of users from the meetup is a representative sample of users' >> > demand, and it is important that we respect that. >> > >> > Tianqi >> > >> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:25 PM, Sergio Fernández <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > > Are we targeting just Seattle as our community? I really hope we are >> > > thinking a bit beyond that... >> > > >> > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:22 Tianqi Chen <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > > I remember last time during the mxnet meetup in Seattle, we did a >> > survey, >> > > > and most users preferred the current discuss forum. So I would say >> we >> > > stick >> > > > with that given the user community prefers that >> > > > >> > > > Tianqi >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 9:13 PM, Sergio Fernández < >> [email protected]> >> > > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Then, if everybody agree, let's request the mailing list creation >> to >> > > > INFRA >> > > > > ;-) >> > > > > >> > > > > Marco, I wouldn't do that. Typically developers are also >> subscribed >> > > > there, >> > > > > since they may be the most informed people for answering users' >> > > > questions. >> > > > > But the topics discussed there may not be of the interest for pure >> > > > > development purposes. Some discussions will jump from users@ to >> dev@ >> > , >> > > > but >> > > > > at a different level. So I wouldn't forward one mailing list to >> the >> > > > other. >> > > > > >> > > > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 21:01 Marco de Abreu >> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > > >> > > > > > I think nobody was opposed to it in the past, right? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > I'd propose that all emails automatically get copied to dev@ to >> > > ensure >> > > > > > high >> > > > > > visibility initially. What do you think? >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Sebastian <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr., 15. Juni 2018, >> 20:51: >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > I have already proposed this many times in the past and would >> > > > strongly >> > > > > > > encourage it. >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > -s >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > On 15.06.2018 21:56, Sergio Fernández wrote: >> > > > > > > > Hi, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > is there any good reason why the podling doesn't have a >> users@ >> > > > > mailing >> > > > > > > list >> > > > > > > > yet? >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Honestly speaking, I'm not a big fan of the other tools the >> > > podling >> > > > > is >> > > > > > > > using. Slack and Web forums a cool tools, and I used them a >> lot >> > > in >> > > > > > other >> > > > > > > > contexts. But when it comes to transparency and community, >> > > mailing >> > > > > > lists >> > > > > > > > play a crucial role in the Apache Way. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Users are the most important asset a project can have. Even >> > more >> > > > than >> > > > > > > > developers, believe me. So I think it's time to create a >> users@ >> > > > > > mailing >> > > > > > > > list for to helping MXNet grow its community beyong the core >> > > team. >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cheers, >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >
