I clearly haven't understood the concept of the incubator then. I really thought the incubator was there to make sure that a community builds up around a codebase - a healthy community built from corporate developers, freelancers interested in the project, volunteers, students and whoever else wants to join in. A good mixture, as I'd like to put it. Call it a sandbox for Apache projects - I really thought it was something like this...
As I understood it, the incubation process was there to make sure that as soon as there is a healthy community alive and kicking, we can proudly take in this project; as part of an existing project (or even as a new TLP). regards, Martin On 12/29/05, Ted Husted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/28/05, Martin Marinschek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Same objections here. > > > > How is Oracle going to maintain code when they don't have the ability to > > commit? > > > > Plus, I think the MyFaces PMC was expecting to be able to hold a last > > final vote at the time when ADF faces gets out of the incubator. We'd > > need to discuss this on the PMC again if we do things differently. > > > > Or, to put it another way, we only voted for ADF faces to be able to > > get into the incubator, not out of the incubator so far. > > When we started the process, the only option was to create a podling > in the Incubator and then move the podling to a TLP or into an > existing TLP. Some podlings have moved through the Incubator in weeks > and others in months, and at least one failed Incubation. > > Since then, the IP Clearance protocol was invented. Here, the > Incubator decides if the code *can* be licensed to the foundation, and > the receiving TLP, as the domain experts, decide if the code *should* > be licensed to the foundation. Since there is an existing project, any > new committers can earn their karma in the usual way. > > Personally, I don't like the idea of using the Incubator like a > sandbox. What's being suggested is that we set the ADF Faces codebase > up there, give a set of corporate developers Apache accounts, and see > if they can work collaboratively with us. > > I don't believe the Incubator should be used to short-circuit the > meritocratic process. We do have people with ADF experience who have > been contributing to the user community for more than six months now. > If other ADF developers have not bothered to become involved in > MyFaces, I don't see why we should give them a free pass now. > > If the MyFaces community, as it stands today, is not ready to receive > this donation, then it might be better to setup a SourceForge project > instead. The MyFaces and ADF developers could collaborate on work > together at SourceForge, and then decide if it should be part of > MyFaces or not. > > -Ted. > -- http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
