>From: Scott O'Bryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Martin, > > Thanks for the link. This is one of those strange cases where the > project "could" be considered a part of MyFaces or it could be > considered a new subproject. I think either way, this definitely has to > go before the incubator PMC. > > I did talk with Michael Freedman (the JSR-301project lead) yesterday and > it's looking like he's going to be handing the code over to me sometime > next week or early the week after as opposed to this week like I > originally thought. Because the code was developed in-house at Oracle > until the Apache community started expressing interest, he's just trying > to get stuff into a state where it could be reasonably handed off and be > able to be supported and enhanced by the community. Still, it looks > like we have some footwork that needs to be done with incubator or > whatnot but I think it would be valuable to start figuring out where > this donation is going to go so that when we do get the code, we can hit > the ground running. What do you guys think? Is this something we can > figure out before the code donation is made or do we need to have the > code donation first? >
Shale recently used the IP clearance incubator process to handle an eclipse plugin donation [1]. Wendy did most of the work as it requires an ASF member with incubator karma but it was a fast path over podling. [1] http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/shale-444-clay-plugin-for-eclipse.html > Scott > > Martin Marinschek wrote: > > Here is some further information on "Intellectual Property Clearance". > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html > > > > regards, > > > > Martin > > > > On 7/26/07, *Matthias Wessendorf* > > > wrote: > > > > > this is exceptionally great news. The question is now how we can > > move in the > > > code. The old question that arises now is incubator versus code > > grant. > > > > even a software grant has be to discussed on [EMAIL PROTECTED] as > > well. > > > > > The question that we'll need to answer is how the community that > > so far has > > > developed the code is structured. > > > > > > Main question: Can and will the code be further developed by > > mostly persons > > > who are already member of the MyFaces community, or does > > community building > > > have to occurr? > > > > > > Both Scott and me will be active in the development, we both are > > active in > > > the Trinidad/MyFaces community, so this is a plus. I would guess > > that also > > > Stan will be interested. So, I think that we as a community will > > be able to > > > handle the code easily. > > > > Scott is already ASF committer, like you and Stan. > > Also others here, not committers (yet), have provided feedback > > regarding JSF + portlet. > > Form that side, all is fine :) > > > > -Matthias > > > > > I would tend to think that in this case, a direct code grant > > would be ok, > > > what does everyone else think? > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > On 7/25/07, Scott O'Bryan > > > wrote: > > > > Dennis, > > > > > > > > I checked with the project lead for JSR-301 and he said > > licensing for > > > > the TCK is still up in the air. It is his intention to > > publish it under > > > > the Apache 2.0 license but I believe he is still trying to > > work out the > > > > logistics with Sun to make sure that Oracle can comply with > > the JCP. > > > > > > > > He said that until the logistics of the TCK are worked out, he > > would > > > > like to contribute some testing code to the subproject here at > > Apache > > > > and would ultimately like those unit tests to drive the > > TCK. But the > > > > TCK is, in large part, a piece of the JCP which gauges > > compliance of > > > > various implementations so we need to play nicely with them. > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > Scott O'Bryan wrote: > > > > > One more comment, the unit tests that will hopefully be made > > as part > > > > > of the Maven build will be developed as part of this project > > and I > > > > > have hopes they will be a lot more comprehensive then the tests > > > > > provided by the TCK. :) That's up to the community to help > > with that > > > > > however. > > > > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > Scott O'Bryan wrote: > > > > >> I'll double check, but I think the TCK will be liscenced > > using the > > > > >> Apache 2.0, it's just that Oracle will maintain the > > copyrights. As > > > > >> per agreements with the JCP, the TCK can only enforce the > > > > >> specification which is developed by the Java Community > > EG. I know > > > > >> Martin is on the Expert Group representing Apache and so am I > > > > >> (representing Trinidad and the new Rich Renderkit we'll be > > donating > > > > >> soon). So the TCK can be influenced though that process. > > > > >> > > > > >> IMO, it's very much the same relationship that MyFaces has > > with the > > > > >> JSF TCK which is developed by Sun, except that because the > > code > > > > >> developed by the Apache community will be used as the R.I., the > > > > >> Apache community has a much better chance to influence both > > the TCK > > > > >> and the future of the standard Portlet Bridge. > > > > >> > > > > >> Scott > > > > >> > > > > >> Dennis Byrne wrote: > > > > >>> believe the TCK will be developed in-house at Oracle, but the > > > > >>> > > > > >>> development of the 301 bridge itself will be done as > > part of > > > > >>> MyFaces > > > > >>> community. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Hello Scott. Does Oracle have control of the TCK > > licensing? If so, > > > > >>> what are the chances of having anonymous read access to > > the code, > > > > >>> and a license that lets us keep this in the continuous > > integration > > > > >>> loop right next the unit tests. Thanks > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Thanks, > > > > >>> Scott > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> -- > > > > >>> Dennis Byrne > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > > Courses in English and German > > > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > > > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > further stuff: > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://www.irian.at > > > > Your JSF powerhouse - > > JSF Consulting, Development and > > Courses in English and German > > > > Professional Support for Apache MyFaces >
