Hi On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Simon Lessard <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Michael, > > See inline. > > > Regards, > > ~ Simon > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Michael Concini <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Now that the JSF 2.0 spec is getting closer to completion, I think it >> would be a good idea for some more planning to go into the development >> process for the MyFaces 2.0 release going forward. There are several >> aspects of this that need to be addressed. >> >> First, regarding the changes/additions to the JSF spec. Is anyone keeping >> track somewhere of which changes have JIRA issues attached versus those that >> still need to have new issues created? It is getting to be hard to >> determine what changes might still not have issues attached at this point as >> the number of JIRA issues associated with the 2.0 spec approaches 200. > > The tickets matching the public review are all created. I'll do another > roundtrip with my team when the final spec is released to create the missing > ones. Basically Werner is working on the JavaScript API, Leonardo and > Jan-Kees help in various areas, I'm currently working on integrating > Facelets and my teammate are helping me with that. One MAJOR issue that we > have right now are unit tests. Leonardo proposed to attack that one, but > since Shale might change his mind about the future of Shale-test, I asked > him to postpone dealing with it just in case so that we don't have to work > on that issue for nothing.
this maybe a bit off-topic, but we should start to put the shale-test into myfaces. Simon, I will write the (required) mail to the shale dev list and will let the folks here know about the outcome. > >> >> Second, I think it would be very helpful to put together a more detailed >> road map of when we want to target specific changes and features. I think a >> good example of how we might want to do this is what OpenWebBeans is doing >> in their road map. They've outlined exactly what is being planned for the >> upcoming milestone work. I know something like this would be very useful to >> my team at IBM in determining which work is best for us to take on in any >> milestone period. > > I don't know if milestones are relevant when implementing a spec considering > what has to be done is fixed and static. I don't see any release coming not > passing the TCK, thus not implementing everything needed. I think that some users/contributors would appreciate a milestone or an alpha release. Once we release something that hasn't passed the TCK we have to call that aplha/milestone. Geronimo did this in the past and so does the openwebbeans podling. I wonder if we already asked for a TCK, and I am not sure if that has TCK has some fields of use restrictions (see [1] for a larger discussion on the field of use restrictions). But we should definitely ping SUN. Let me take on that part. Michael, if you are combing a committer (by providing patches) you can also get access to run the TCK (after signing a NDA) on your side. ;-) > >> >> I also think it would be a good idea to come up with a more formal way of >> keeping track of who is working on which items. As more folks become >> involved, its going to become more and more likely that we'll step on each >> other's toes. > > I agree, but JIRA only allows to assign ticket to commiters and I don't have > anything better than adding a comment to the ticket for now. If you have a > better idea it would be welcome. Perhaps we could use the wiki ? Like creating an umbrella MyFaces 2.0 items wiki page, which "links" the all the subtasks / issues . > >> >> Does anyone have thoughts on any of the above? I'd be glad to work with >> someone from the PMC to assist in any of the required planning. Michael, the right channel to communicate on the development of Apache MyFaces is this mailing list. If you/your team has questions, the best is to use something like [myfaces 2.0] in the beginning of the subject, so a mail can be filtered easily. We usually use other resources, like JIRA or the MyFaces wiki ([2]) to "organize" the work. You can create an account on those services and contribute some work there as well. If you have more questions, please ask them here, as the community is more than willing to answer them. -Matthias [1] http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html [2] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ >> >> Thanks, >> Mike Concini > > -- Matthias Wessendorf blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
