Hi Matthias, I guess that's a fair point about alpha release, I'll try to think of some good milestone.
~ Simon On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:25 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:50 PM, Simon Lessard > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > > > See inline. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > ~ Simon > > > > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Michael Concini <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Now that the JSF 2.0 spec is getting closer to completion, I think it > >> would be a good idea for some more planning to go into the development > >> process for the MyFaces 2.0 release going forward. There are several > >> aspects of this that need to be addressed. > >> > >> First, regarding the changes/additions to the JSF spec. Is anyone > keeping > >> track somewhere of which changes have JIRA issues attached versus those > that > >> still need to have new issues created? It is getting to be hard to > >> determine what changes might still not have issues attached at this > point as > >> the number of JIRA issues associated with the 2.0 spec approaches 200. > > > > The tickets matching the public review are all created. I'll do another > > roundtrip with my team when the final spec is released to create the > missing > > ones. Basically Werner is working on the JavaScript API, Leonardo and > > Jan-Kees help in various areas, I'm currently working on integrating > > Facelets and my teammate are helping me with that. One MAJOR issue that > we > > have right now are unit tests. Leonardo proposed to attack that one, but > > since Shale might change his mind about the future of Shale-test, I asked > > him to postpone dealing with it just in case so that we don't have to > work > > on that issue for nothing. > > this maybe a bit off-topic, but we should start to put the shale-test > into myfaces. > Simon, I will write the (required) mail to the shale dev list and will > let the folks > here know about the outcome. > > > > >> > >> Second, I think it would be very helpful to put together a more detailed > >> road map of when we want to target specific changes and features. I > think a > >> good example of how we might want to do this is what OpenWebBeans is > doing > >> in their road map. They've outlined exactly what is being planned for > the > >> upcoming milestone work. I know something like this would be very useful > to > >> my team at IBM in determining which work is best for us to take on in > any > >> milestone period. > > > > I don't know if milestones are relevant when implementing a spec > considering > > what has to be done is fixed and static. I don't see any release coming > not > > passing the TCK, thus not implementing everything needed. > > I think that some users/contributors would appreciate a milestone or > an alpha release. > Once we release something that hasn't passed the TCK we have to call > that aplha/milestone. > Geronimo did this in the past and so does the openwebbeans podling. I > wonder if we already > asked for a TCK, and I am not sure if that has TCK has some fields of > use restrictions (see [1] for > a larger discussion on the field of use restrictions). But we should > definitely ping SUN. Let me > take on that part. > > Michael, if you are combing a committer (by providing patches) you can > also get access to run > the TCK (after signing a NDA) on your side. ;-) > > > > >> > >> I also think it would be a good idea to come up with a more formal way > of > >> keeping track of who is working on which items. As more folks become > >> involved, its going to become more and more likely that we'll step on > each > >> other's toes. > > > > I agree, but JIRA only allows to assign ticket to commiters and I don't > have > > anything better than adding a comment to the ticket for now. If you have > a > > better idea it would be welcome. > > Perhaps we could use the wiki ? Like creating an umbrella MyFaces 2.0 items > wiki > page, which "links" the all the subtasks / issues . > > > > >> > >> Does anyone have thoughts on any of the above? I'd be glad to work with > >> someone from the PMC to assist in any of the required planning. > > Michael, the right channel to communicate on the development of Apache > MyFaces > is this mailing list. If you/your team has questions, the best is to > use something > like [myfaces 2.0] in the beginning of the subject, so a mail can be > filtered easily. > We usually use other resources, like JIRA or the MyFaces wiki ([2]) to > "organize" > the work. You can create an account on those services and contribute some > work > there as well. > > If you have more questions, please ask them here, as the community is more > than > willing to answer them. > > -Matthias > > [1] http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletter.html > [2] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/ > > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Mike Concini > > > > > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf >
