great intro +1 regards, gerhard
http://www.irian.at Your JSF powerhouse - JSF Consulting, Development and Courses in English and German Professional Support for Apache MyFaces 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> > Hi, > > >So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis. > > Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one > likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in > MyFaces).. > > Regards, > Jakob > > 2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <[email protected]>: > > Hey, > > > > I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table gives > a > > nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable. > > > > There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't > > think that's a big issue... > > > > So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always add > > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis. > > > > Regards, > > Jan-Kees > > > > > > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]> > > > >> Hi Bart, > >> > >> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I > >> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview > >> table. Great work :) > >> > >> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more > >> detail in the next days. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jakob > >> > >> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <[email protected]>: > >> > Hi all, > >> > > >> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue > >> > adding > >> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really > appreciate > >> to > >> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for > >> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear if > >> this > >> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details? Or > >> > too > >> > much details perhaps? Please let me know! > >> > > >> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to > >> > continue the documentation work after I return. > >> > > >> > Best regards, > >> > Bart Kummel > >> > > >> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi all, > >> >> > >> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to > >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below > that. > >> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please let > >> >> me > >> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to > correct > >> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the weeks > >> >> to > >> >> come. > >> >> > >> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache > >> secretary. > >> >> I got a confirmation that it was received. > >> >> > >> >> Best regards, > >> >> Bart > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Hi all, > >> >>> > >> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss this > >> with > >> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted. > >> >>> > >> >>> Best regards, > >> >>> Bart > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> regards, > >> >>>> gerhard > >> >>>> > >> >>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Hi! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could > help > >> us > >> >>>>> with pimping our documentation! > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> For the legal question: > >> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts: > >> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a > CLA > >> >>>>> [1] > >> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get blamed > >> >>>>> for > >> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned > iCLA > >> to > >> >>>>> [email protected] and that's all from the ASF side. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book. > >> >>>>> Please > >> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal > >> because > >> >>>>> they > >> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make > >> >>>>> sure. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the > >> >>>>> contribution > >> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can > also > >> add > >> >>>>> a > >> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are > >> taken > >> >>>>> from > >> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web > Application > >> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express > the > >> >>>>> grant > >> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though... > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok > from > >> an > >> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with legal > >> >>>>> or > >> >>>>> board > >> >>>>> to be sure? > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> LieGrue, > >> >>>>> strub > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information > >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source > >> >>>>> projects.however, > >> >>>>> we > >> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant > >> >>>>> license > >> >>>>> to ASF > >> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would > be > >> >>>>> a > >> >>>>> good > >> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text). > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> regards,gerhard > >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial > brainstorming! > >> >>>>> regards,gerhard > >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Hi all, > >> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on > the > >> >>>>> wiki > >> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my > book, > >> >>>>> which > >> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven > >> >>>>> projects. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Best regards,Bart > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <[email protected] > > > >> >>>>> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming. > >> >>>>> regards,gerhard > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> thx for the hint mark! > >> >>>>> regards,gerhard > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> +1 for better community doku > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few > >> >>>>> projects > >> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the > CMS > >> >>>>> (tool > >> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we > put > >> >>>>> effort > >> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> LieGrue, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> strub > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010 > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> [2] > >> >>>>> > >> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> hi @ all, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information > >> >>>>> about > >> >>>>> our community. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces > >> Project" > >> >>>>> section. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should > also > >> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should > >> >>>>> start/continue > >> >>>>> with our new wiki [1]. > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> regards, > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> gerhard > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse - > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Courses in English and German > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> -- > >> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________ > >> >>>>> Bart Kummel > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application Development > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> -- > >> >>> ___________________________________________________________ > >> >>> *Bart Kummel* > >> >>> > >> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application > >> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> > >> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel > >> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> ___________________________________________________________ > >> >> *Bart Kummel* > >> >> > >> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application > >> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> > >> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel > >> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > ___________________________________________________________ > >> > *Bart Kummel* > >> > > >> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application > >> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad> > >> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel > >> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel> > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Jakob Korherr > >> > >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com > >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr > >> work: http://www.irian.at > >> > > > > > -- > Jakob Korherr > > blog: http://www.jakobk.com > twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr > work: http://www.irian.at >
