hi bart,

thx for forwarding the e-mail!
imo it shouldn't be a problem since we already refer to your book in our
wiki.

regards,
gerhard

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2011/3/3 Bart Kummel <[email protected]>

> Hi all,
>
> Thanks for the reviews so far. Although next weekend is going to be busy
> for my, I hope to find some time to continue the work on the text. As noted
> before, the text is based on my book, so I had to ask the publisher
> permission for this re-use. Last week I got an official answer from them, as
> quoted below.
>
> Best regards,
> Bart Kummel
>
> Hi Bart,
> Apologies for the late reply. You can re-use some text from my book as long
> as it leads to a good promotion for your book and thus, increases the sales
> of your book.
> Thanks,
> Richard
> Richard Dias
> *Marketing Research Executive* | Packt Publishing | www.PacktPub.com
>  <http://www.packtpub.com/>*MSN:* [email protected]
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 14:07, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> great intro +1
>>
>> regards,
>> gerhard
>>
>> http://www.irian.at
>>
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>>
>>
>> 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> >So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always
>>> add some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
>>>
>>> Totally agreed! We should keep it short and simple. I guess no-one
>>> likes to read endless texts (even if you are very interested in
>>> MyFaces)..
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jakob
>>>
>>> 2011/2/17, Jan-Kees van Andel <[email protected]>:
>>> > Hey,
>>> >
>>> > I like the way it's written. Well structured and the Overview table
>>> gives a
>>> > nice overview. Also the Getting Started guide is well readable.
>>> >
>>> > There seems to be a bit overlap with some other Wiki pages, but I don't
>>> > think that's a big issue...
>>> >
>>> > So I think the format is good. If more depth is needed, we can always
>>> add
>>> > some extra references to more in-depth articles or Wikis.
>>> >
>>> > Regards,
>>> > Jan-Kees
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2011/2/17 Jakob Korherr <[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> >> Hi Bart,
>>> >>
>>> >> I just read the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces Project" site and I
>>> >> really like it, especially the brief history and the project overview
>>> >> table. Great work :)
>>> >>
>>> >> The other stuff also looks pretty good, but I want the read it in more
>>> >> detail in the next days.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >> Jakob
>>> >>
>>> >> 2011/2/17, Bart Kummel <[email protected]>:
>>> >> > Hi all,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I did not get any reply on my previous mail yet. Before I continue
>>> >> > adding
>>> >> > documentation to the Draft pages on the wiki, I would really
>>> appreciate
>>> >> to
>>> >> > hear if I'm going in the right direction so far. I'm not looking for
>>> >> > detailed, in-depth documentation reviews yet. I'd just like to hear
>>> if
>>> >> this
>>> >> > is the kind of stuff you're looking for. Do I have enough details?
>>> Or
>>> >> > too
>>> >> > much details perhaps? Please let me know!
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I will be on vacation for a week, starting tomorrow. I've planned to
>>> >> > continue the documentation work after I return.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Best regards,
>>> >> > Bart Kummel
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 16:28, Bart Kummel <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hi all,
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Today, I have been adding some initial stuff to
>>> >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site/ and some pages below
>>> that.
>>> >> >> Most of the texts are slightly adapted texts from my book. Please
>>> let
>>> >> >> me
>>> >> >> know what you think about this. Feel free to edit the pages to
>>> correct
>>> >> >> errors or add useful info. I hope to add some more stuff in the
>>> weeks
>>> >> >> to
>>> >> >> come.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> FYI: I have signed an ICLA aggreement and sent it to the Apache
>>> >> secretary.
>>> >> >> I got a confirmation that it was received.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Best regards,
>>> >> >> Bart
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 17:55, Bart Kummel <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> Hi all,
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> This sounds good from my perspective as an author. I'll discuss
>>> this
>>> >> with
>>> >> >>> the publisher first now. I'll keep y'all posted.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Best regards,
>>> >> >>> Bart
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 18:21, Gerhard <[email protected]
>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>> imo pinging the legal mailing list is a great idea.
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> regards,
>>> >> >>>> gerhard
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> 2011/2/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>> Hi!
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> First of all: thanks Bart, that would be way cool if you could
>>> help
>>> >> us
>>> >> >>>>> with pimping our documentation!
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> For the legal question:
>>> >> >>>>> Actually contains of 2 parts:
>>> >> >>>>> All people who like to write articles in our Wiki need to have a
>>> CLA
>>> >> >>>>> [1]
>>> >> >>>>> on file. This is just to make sure that the ASF cannot get
>>> blamed
>>> >> >>>>> for
>>> >> >>>>> 'stealing' things from somewhere. Just send the signed&scanned
>>> iCLA
>>> >> to
>>> >> >>>>> [email protected] and that's all from the ASF side.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> The other legal aspect is if you can reuse parts of your book.
>>> >> >>>>> Please
>>> >> >>>>> ask for the ok of your publisher. Usually that's not a big deal
>>> >> because
>>> >> >>>>> they
>>> >> >>>>> are happy about such ads ;) But it has to be done, just to make
>>> >> >>>>> sure.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> All: I know the wiki/CMS is a community project, but if the
>>> >> >>>>> contribution
>>> >> >>>>> is homogenuous and reaches a certain size, then I think we can
>>> also
>>> >> add
>>> >> >>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>> preposition containing something like "Parts of this article are
>>> >> taken
>>> >> >>>>> from
>>> >> >>>>> and based upon Bart Kummels Book 'Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web
>>> Application
>>> >> >>>>> Development', packtpub publishing 2009". Not sure how we express
>>> the
>>> >> >>>>> grant
>>> >> >>>>> to publish it on our wiki though...
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> All, is this ok from a community perspective? Bart i,s this ok
>>> from
>>> >> an
>>> >> >>>>> Authors perspective? Any more input? Or should we check with
>>> legal
>>> >> >>>>> or
>>> >> >>>>> board
>>> >> >>>>> to be sure?
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> LieGrue,
>>> >> >>>>> strub
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>> Subject: Re: [myfaces site] community information
>>> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>> Date: Friday, February 4, 2011, 3:58 PM
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> as far as i know the publisher supports open-source
>>> >> >>>>> projects.however,
>>> >> >>>>> we
>>> >> >>>>> have to think about possible issues.maybe a patch with "Grant
>>> >> >>>>> license
>>> >> >>>>> to ASF
>>> >> >>>>> for inclusion in ASF works (as per the Apache License ยง5)" would
>>> be
>>> >> >>>>> a
>>> >> >>>>> good
>>> >> >>>>> idea (before we commit the final text).
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Gerhard <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> great to hear that you will have time for an initial
>>> brainstorming!
>>> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/4 Bart Kummel <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Hi all,
>>> >> >>>>> I discussed this with Gerhard via IM. I will put some drafts on
>>> the
>>> >> >>>>> wiki
>>> >> >>>>> page he created next week. I plan to re-use some texts from my
>>> book,
>>> >> >>>>> which
>>> >> >>>>> by itself is a good introduction to MyFaces, also for non-maven
>>> >> >>>>> projects.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Best regards,Bart
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 12:57, Gerhard <
>>> [email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> i've created a page [1] in our dev-wiki for brainstorming.
>>> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Drafts/Site
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Gerhard <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> thx for the hint mark!
>>> >> >>>>> regards,gerhard
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> 2011/2/3 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> +1 for better community doku
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> +0 for wiki. There is the new Apache CMS [1] out now, and a few
>>> >> >>>>> projects
>>> >> >>>>> already move their documentation stuff over from the wiki to the
>>> CMS
>>> >> >>>>> (tool
>>> >> >>>>> for it see [2]). We should at least take a look at it before we
>>> put
>>> >> >>>>> effort
>>> >> >>>>> into a wiki which might get replaced soon.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> LieGrue,
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> strub
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/general/ApacheCms2010
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> [2]
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >>
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/websites/cms/conversion-utilities/cwiki
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Gerhard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> From: Gerhard <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Subject: [myfaces site] community information
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> To: "MyFaces Development" <[email protected]>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 7:02 PM
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> hi @ all,
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> i was told that it isn't easy to find all the basic information
>>> >> >>>>> about
>>> >> >>>>> our community.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> imo:we should re-write e.g. the "Welcome to the Apache MyFaces
>>> >> Project"
>>> >> >>>>> section.
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> the introduction should be more community centric and we should
>>> also
>>> >> >>>>> re-visit the other parts of the page.furthermore, we should
>>> >> >>>>> start/continue
>>> >> >>>>> with our new wiki [1].
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> regards,
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> gerhard
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MYFACES
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> http://www.irian.at
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Your JSF powerhouse -
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> JSF Consulting, Development and
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Courses in English and German
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Professional Support for Apache MyFaces
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> --
>>> >> >>>>> ___________________________________________________________
>>> >> >>>>> Bart Kummel
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>> Development
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>> blog: BK | twitter: @bkummel
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>>
>>> >> >>>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> --
>>> >> >>> ___________________________________________________________
>>> >> >>> *Bart Kummel*
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>> >> >>> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>>> >> >>> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>>> >> >>> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> ___________________________________________________________
>>> >> >> *Bart Kummel*
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>> >> >> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>>> >> >> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>>> >> >> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > --
>>> >> > ___________________________________________________________
>>> >> > *Bart Kummel*
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application
>>> >> > Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
>>> >> > blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
>>> >> > <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Jakob Korherr
>>> >>
>>> >> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>>> >> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>>> >> work: http://www.irian.at
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jakob Korherr
>>>
>>> blog: http://www.jakobk.com
>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/jakobkorherr
>>> work: http://www.irian.at
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> ___________________________________________________________
> *Bart Kummel*
>
> Author of the book Apache MyFaces 1.2 Web Application 
> Development<http://tinyurl.com/am12wad>
> blog: BK <http://www.bartkummel.net/> | twitter: @bkummel
> <http://twitter.com/bkummel>
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