Hi, We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very busy. He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the videos online in some time. Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk taking a larger role in openoffice, it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and albania, can we get someone to come to one of the conferences this year: http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/ http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871 thanks, mike
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote: > > > Hi to everyone, > > > > I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as I was offline > for > > some time. > > > > Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron, > > ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are public. > > > > > Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian localization 'live' > again > > in OO.o site, but we have taken some efforts to make it live in FLOSSK > > (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova). So it's the work that we are > > tryibg to accomplish in localising the updates for OO.o 3.+, and having > new > > young people on team, on the field. > > > > Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to handle the Albanian > Lead > > to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will not lead only > to > > this small step. > > As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded, localizes and > build. > > If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I would be more > than > > happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have results as proof. > > > > Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed something so far. I'm > > aware that it didn't went as expected, but that's life. > > Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-) > > > > > Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian. > > > > Best Regards, > > > Shkumbin > > > Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your email alias. > Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that would suggest to someone > unfamiliar with us and our policies that you are a representative (in some > official capacity) of OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to confuse > people, so please change the alias to something less confusing. Thanks. > > -louis > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> To reiterate the point: > >> > >> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within the l10n > project: > >> http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org. NLC is no > really > >> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to coordinate your > >> efforts. > >> > >> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working on this. Is > >> that the case? Do you know? What have you done to determine that? > >> > >> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize OOo to > >> Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that case, forming an NLC > >> project makes sense. So: > >> > >> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not responded to you > or > >> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period of time--say > >> within this week--and if there is a living community (uhm, say > active--why > >> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work with them > by > >> using the project list to move the localization ahead. > >> > >> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the webpages, etc. > If > >> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can do that for > >> you. Effectively, you would become the project lead, though webmaster is > not > >> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you should > co-ordinate > >> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that who is in > >> control of the pages and lists is known and accepted by all. > >> > >> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to this: Don't > wait > >> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going on the > >> localization if you have the resources or energies to get others to work > on > >> it. > >> > >> Best, > >> Louis > >> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Please, can anyone look into my issue? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Hello dev list, > >>>> > >>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), > but > >> there has not been any response for far. > >>>> > >>>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja > at > >> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I > believe > >> this team is not active anymore. > >>>> > >>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to > >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. > >>>> > >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years > >> ago. > >>>> > >>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some active > people > >> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating OpenOffice for > >> Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the right level to translate > since > >> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit. > >>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register here, but > >> because no one admitted they have found another place to have fun. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> //Agroni > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > >>>> Subject: > >>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4 years > >>>> From: > >>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com> > >>>> Date: > >>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500 > >>>> To: > >>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net > >>>> > >>>> To: > >>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net > >>>> CC: > >>>> southerncr...@openoffice.org > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Hello, Agroni, > >>>> > >>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Hi Charles and Louis, > >>>>> > >>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian team (sq), > >> but there has not been any response for far. > >>>>> > >>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader Shkumbin Saneja > >> at all. > >>>>> > >>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO 1.1.4 I > believe > >> this team is not active anymore. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader needs to > >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive because of him. > >>>>> > >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was almost 5 years > >> ago. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please help. > >>>>> > >>>>> Thanks, > >>>>> //Agroni > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader lists via > >> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's normal in > >> Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for the responsible to > >> disappear as they become engaged in other (often remunerative) > activities. > >> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are soliciting new > >> interest. > >>>> > >>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also wonder if it > would > >> help to engage government support? > >>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies. Is good. :-) > >>>> > >>>> Ciao > >>>> Louis > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote: > >>>>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: > >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426 > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> User agroni changed the following: > >>>>> > >>>>> What |Old value |New value > >>>>> > >> > ================================================================================ > >>>>> Component|native-lang |l10n > >>>>> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n > >>>>> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org Sun Feb 7 > >> 02:19:42 +0000 2010 ------- > >>>>> Still no response from no one. > >>>>> > >>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this project. > >>>>> > >>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader. > >>>>> > >>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post here. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from > >>>>> Issue Tracker. 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