Shkumbin,

You can now change James' username ( h4ck3rm1k3 ) to the Project Lead
role. In order to do this please log in to the OOo website, go to the
Shkip project's members section, click add member, search his username.
Once this is done, you will see below the result different possible
role. Select Project Owner and click done granting roles.

Thanks,

Charles.

Le Mon, 8 Mar 2010 01:48:02 +0100,
"jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a
écrit :

> HI guys,
> I am not going to chase anyone.
> good luck in getting a response from him,
> mike
> 
> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts
> <lui...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > On 2010-03-07, at 10:58 , Charles-H. Schulz wrote:
> >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > As I said, nothing is going to happen until you and others RTFM .
> > > Read my message, again, and see exactly how you should submit ssh
> > > keys.
> >
> > Indeed. I just referred back to the proposer one ssh2key request
> > (me: ssh2key).  The way it works, as we spell out, is that the
> > project lead (or designee) must approve of new requests.
> >
> > If I am tardy in responding, then by all means don't hesitate to
> > nag me. But please follow the guidelines Charles points to.
> >
> > Louis
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Charles.
> > >
> > > Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:42:02 +0100,
> > > "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com>
> > > a écrit :
> > >
> > >> I am willing to talk over the lead until I find someone else to
> > >> replace me. Here are my keys,
> > >> the SCA, I can do asap.
> > >> mike
> > >> https://launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+sshkeys<https://launchpad.net/%7Ejamesmikedupont/+sshkeys>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> > >> charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>>
> > >>> I would first like to thank Shkumbin for his contributions these
> > >>> past years. I am eager to see the Albanian project grow and work
> > >>> againwith Flossk or anyone who is willing and able to carry this
> > >>> project forward.
> > >>>
> > >>> Unfortunately we cannot advance any further at that time until
> > >>> Shkumbin has formally appointed a new lead (change his role from
> > >>> observer to Project Lead). The new lead shall 1) upload his/her
> > >>> ssh keys, sign and fax the SCA.
> > >>>
> > >>> This is explained here: http://native-lang.openoffice.org and
> > >>> here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC
> > >>>
> > >>> Until any of these steps have been completed we cannot consider
> > >>> that we have a project and a leadership. If necessary, Louis
> > >>> Suarez-Potts can change the role of the person whose new
> > >>> leadership role has been agreed on. But even today, it's even
> > >>> unclear who we're talking to. Please note that there can be two
> > >>> leads, if necessary.
> > >>>
> > >>> Best,
> > >>> Charles-H. Schulz.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Le Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:25:33 +0100,
> > >>> "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com"
> > >>> <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a écrit :
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi,
> > >>>> We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very
> > >>>> busy. He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the
> > >>>> videos online in some time.
> > >>>> Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk
> > >>>> taking a larger role in openoffice,
> > >>>> it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and
> > >>>> albania, can we get someone to come to one of the conferences
> > >>>> this year: http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
> > >>>> http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871
> > >>>> thanks,
> > >>>> mike
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts
> > >>>> <lui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Hi,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Hi to everyone,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as I
> > >>>>>> was offline
> > >>>>> for
> > >>>>>> some time.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are
> > >>>>> public.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian
> > >>>>>> localization 'live'
> > >>>>> again
> > >>>>>> in OO.o site, but  we have taken some efforts to make it live
> > >>>>>> in FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova). So it's
> > >>>>>> the work that we are tryibg to accomplish in localising the
> > >>>>>> updates for OO.o 3.+, and having
> > >>>>> new
> > >>>>>> young people on team, on the field.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to handle
> > >>>>>> the Albanian
> > >>>>> Lead
> > >>>>>> to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will not
> > >>>>>> lead only
> > >>>>> to
> > >>>>>> this small step.
> > >>>>>> As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded,
> > >>>>>> localizes and
> > >>>>> build.
> > >>>>>> If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I
> > >>>>>> would be more
> > >>>>> than
> > >>>>>> happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have results
> > >>>>>> as proof.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed something
> > >>>>>> so far. I'm aware that it didn't went as expected, but that's
> > >>>>>> life.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Best Regards,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Shkumbin
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your
> > >>>>> email alias. Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that
> > >>>>> would suggest to someone unfamiliar with us and our policies
> > >>>>> that you are a representative (in some official capacity) of
> > >>>>> OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to confuse people, so
> > >>>>> please change the alias to something less confusing. Thanks.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> -louis
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts
> > >>>>>> <lui...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> To reiterate the point:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and within
> > >>>>>>> the l10n
> > >>>>> project:
> > >>>>>>> http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org.  NLC
> > >>>>>>> is no
> > >>>>> really
> > >>>>>>> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to
> > >>>>>>> coordinate your efforts.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one working
> > >>>>>>> on this. Is that the case? Do you know? What have you done
> > >>>>>>> to determine that?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to localize
> > >>>>>>> OOo to Albanian and that this is sustainable... in that
> > >>>>>>> case, forming an NLC project makes sense. So:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not
> > >>>>>>> responded to you
> > >>>>> or
> > >>>>>>> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable period
> > >>>>>>> of time--say within this week--and if there is a living
> > >>>>>>> community (uhm,  say
> > >>>>> active--why
> > >>>>>>> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then work
> > >>>>>>> with them
> > >>>>> by
> > >>>>>>> using the project list to move the localization ahead.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the
> > >>>>>>> webpages, etc.
> > >>>>> If
> > >>>>>>> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I can
> > >>>>>>> do that for you. Effectively, you would become the project
> > >>>>>>> lead, though webmaster is
> > >>>>> not
> > >>>>>>> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you
> > >>>>>>> should
> > >>>>> co-ordinate
> > >>>>>>> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so that
> > >>>>>>> who is in control of the pages and lists is known and
> > >>>>>>> accepted by all.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to
> > >>>>>>> this: Don't
> > >>>>> wait
> > >>>>>>> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get going
> > >>>>>>> on the localization if you have the resources or energies to
> > >>>>>>> get others to work
> > >>>>> on
> > >>>>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Best,
> > >>>>>>> Louis
> > >>>>>>> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Please, can anyone look into my issue?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hello dev list,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian
> > >>>>>>>>> team (sq),
> > >>>>> but
> > >>>>>>> there has not been any response for far.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader
> > >>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja
> > >>>>> at
> > >>>>>>> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO
> > >>>>>>> 1.1.4 I
> > >>>>> believe
> > >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader
> > >>>>>>>>> needs to
> > >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive
> > >>>>>>> because of him.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was
> > >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years
> > >>>>>>> ago.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get some
> > >>>>>>>>> active
> > >>>>> people
> > >>>>>>> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating
> > >>>>>>> OpenOffice for Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the
> > >>>>>>> right level to translate
> > >>>>> since
> > >>>>>>> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit.
> > >>>>>>>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register
> > >>>>>>>>> here, but
> > >>>>>>> because no one admitted they have found another place to
> > >>>>>>> have fun.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>> //Agroni
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Subject:
> > >>>>>>>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for 4
> > >>>>>>>>> years From:
> > >>>>>>>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> Date:
> > >>>>>>>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500
> > >>>>>>>>> To:
> > >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> To:
> > >>>>>>>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net
> > >>>>>>>>> CC:
> > >>>>>>>>> southerncr...@openoffice.org
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Hello, Agroni,
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Hi Charles and Louis,
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the Albanian
> > >>>>>>>>>> team (sq),
> > >>>>>>> but there has not been any response for far.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader
> > >>>>>>>>>> Shkumbin Saneja
> > >>>>>>> at all.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO
> > >>>>>>>>>> 1.1.4 I
> > >>>>> believe
> > >>>>>>> this team is not active anymore.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team leader
> > >>>>>>>>>> needs to
> > >>>>>>> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive
> > >>>>>>> because of him.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was
> > >>>>>>>>>> almost 5 years
> > >>>>>>> ago.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Please help.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>>>>> //Agroni
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader
> > >>>>>>>>> lists via
> > >>>>>>> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation. It's
> > >>>>>>> normal in Foss projects, which are often volunteer-run, for
> > >>>>>>> the responsible to disappear as they become engaged in other
> > >>>>>>> (often remunerative)
> > >>>>> activities.
> > >>>>>>> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are
> > >>>>>>> soliciting new interest.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also
> > >>>>>>>>> wonder if it
> > >>>>> would
> > >>>>>>> help to engage government support?
> > >>>>>>>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local economies.
> > >>>>>>>>> Is good. :-)
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Ciao
> > >>>>>>>>> Louis
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>> To comment on the following update, log in, then open the
> > >>>>>>>>>> issue:
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> User agroni changed the following:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> What |Old value |New value
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > ================================================================================
> > >>>>>>>>>> Component|native-lang |l10n
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>> QA contact|iss...@native-lang |iss...@l10n
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> ------- Additional comments from agr...@openoffice.org
> > >>>>>>>>>> Sun Feb 7
> > >>>>>>> 02:19:42 +0000 2010 -------
> > >>>>>>>>>> Still no response from no one.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this
> > >>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last post
> > >>>>>>>>>> here.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >>>>>>>>>> notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the
> > >>>>>>>>>> website and enter your comments.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification
> > >>>>>>>>>>

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