Ok
Done!
merci,
mike
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote:
> James,
>
> that's a bit better. You have to attach your key though (not paste it)
> and indicate the domain they keys will apply to ("sq" in this case).
>
> Before this becomes effective, either Shkumbin or Louis have to change
> your role (your username being: h4ck3rm1k3 ) to Project Lead for the
> sq.openoffice.org project.
>
> Thank you for your patience.
>
> Charles
>
>
> Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 17:22:15 +0100,
> "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > Done.
> > agreement sent, keys attached.
> > http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=109899
> >
> > mike
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> > charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote:
> >
> > > James,
> > >
> > > As I said, nothing is going to happen until you and others RTFM .
> > > Read my message, again, and see exactly how you should submit ssh
> > > keys.
> > >
> > > Charles.
> > >
> > > Le Sun, 7 Mar 2010 16:42:02 +0100,
> > > "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com" <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > I am willing to talk over the lead until I find someone else to
> > > > replace me. Here are my keys,
> > > > the SCA, I can do asap.
> > > > mike
> > > > https://launchpad.net/~jamesmikedupont/+sshkeys<https://launchpad.net/%7Ejamesmikedupont/+sshkeys>
> <https://launchpad.net/%7Ejamesmikedupont/+sshkeys>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Charles-H. Schulz <
> > > > charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I would first like to thank Shkumbin for his contributions these
> > > > > past years. I am eager to see the Albanian project grow and work
> > > > > againwith Flossk or anyone who is willing and able to carry this
> > > > > project forward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unfortunately we cannot advance any further at that time until
> > > > > Shkumbin has formally appointed a new lead (change his role from
> > > > > observer to Project Lead). The new lead shall 1) upload his/her
> > > > > ssh keys, sign and fax the SCA.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is explained here: http://native-lang.openoffice.org and
> > > > > here: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/NLC
> > > > >
> > > > > Until any of these steps have been completed we cannot consider
> > > > > that we have a project and a leadership. If necessary, Louis
> > > > > Suarez-Potts can change the role of the person whose new
> > > > > leadership role has been agreed on. But even today, it's even
> > > > > unclear who we're talking to. Please note that there can be two
> > > > > leads, if necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > Charles-H. Schulz.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:25:33 +0100,
> > > > > "jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com"
> > > > > <jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com> a écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > We (flossk) have gotten the sources from shumbin, he is very
> > > > > > busy. He came and spoke at the conference, I will have the
> > > > > > videos online in some time.
> > > > > > Agron is also part of flossk, I would like to see flossk
> > > > > > taking a larger role in openoffice,
> > > > > > it would be great to hold a openoffice workshop in kosovo and
> > > > > > albania, can we get someone to come to one of the conferences
> > > > > > this year: http://kosovasoftwarefreedom.org/
> > > > > > http://www.wikicfp.com/cfp/servlet/event.showcfp?eventid=8871
> > > > > > thanks,
> > > > > > mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts
> > > > > > <lui...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 2010-03-06, at 04:07 , Open Office Shqip wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi to everyone,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I appoologize for not replying earlier in this issue, as
> > > > > > > > I was offline
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > some time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear Loius, Charlkes and Agron,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ….and also the entire list and world: these archives are
> > > > > > > public.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks for your interesting on making the albanian
> > > > > > > > localization 'live'
> > > > > > > again
> > > > > > > > in OO.o site, but we have taken some efforts to make it
> > > > > > > > live in FLOSSK (Free Libre Open Source Software Kosova).
> > > > > > > > So it's the work that we are tryibg to accomplish in
> > > > > > > > localising the updates for OO.o 3.+, and having
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > young people on team, on the field.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Otherwise, I do not have any problem if you want to
> > > > > > > > handle the Albanian
> > > > > > > Lead
> > > > > > > > to Agron, but just I would like to be sure that this will
> > > > > > > > not lead only
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > this small step.
> > > > > > > > As we know, the OO.o source if free to be downloaded,
> > > > > > > > localizes and
> > > > > > > build.
> > > > > > > > If Agron or anyone come's up with updated localisation, I
> > > > > > > > would be more
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > > happy. So, feel free to decide, but just let's have
> > > > > > > > results as proof.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Unfortunately, so far, only my team have developed
> > > > > > > > something so far. I'm aware that it didn't went as
> > > > > > > > expected, but that's life.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Agroni, et al., let's work together on this. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Looking forward for a progress in OO.o Albanian.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Shkumbin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shkumbin: a personal request. Please consider changing your
> > > > > > > email alias. Right now, it's "Open Office Shqip" and that
> > > > > > > would suggest to someone unfamiliar with us and our
> > > > > > > policies that you are a representative (in some official
> > > > > > > capacity) of OpenOffice.org. I'm sure you do not want to
> > > > > > > confuse people, so please change the alias to something
> > > > > > > less confusing. Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -louis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Louis Suarez-Potts
> > > > > > > > <lui...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> To reiterate the point:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> A. For Albanian localization, please work with and
> > > > > > > >> within the l10n
> > > > > > > project:
> > > > > > > >> http://l10n.openoffice.org and d...@l10n.openoffice.org.
> > > > > > > >> NLC is no
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > >> suited for localization efforts. Please work there to
> > > > > > > >> coordinate your efforts.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> B. it's possible (likely?) that you are the only one
> > > > > > > >> working on this. Is that the case? Do you know? What
> > > > > > > >> have you done to determine that?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> C. Let's say that others join you in this effort to
> > > > > > > >> localize OOo to Albanian and that this is sustainable...
> > > > > > > >> in that case, forming an NLC project makes sense. So:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 1. If the supposed lead of the Albanian project has not
> > > > > > > >> responded to you
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > >> to us (and I'm cc'ing him here) within a reasonable
> > > > > > > >> period of time--say within this week--and if there is a
> > > > > > > >> living community (uhm, say
> > > > > > > active--why
> > > > > > > >> discriminate against the zombies? that's a joke.)--then
> > > > > > > >> work with them
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > >> using the project list to move the localization ahead.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> 2. It may be that you need the permissions to update the
> > > > > > > >> webpages, etc.
> > > > > > > If
> > > > > > > >> no one is there to grant you those within the project, I
> > > > > > > >> can do that for you. Effectively, you would become the
> > > > > > > >> project lead, though webmaster is
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> the same as lead. Still, to make it easier for all, you
> > > > > > > >> should
> > > > > > > co-ordinate
> > > > > > > >> with the existing community, if any, on this issue, so
> > > > > > > >> that who is in control of the pages and lists is known
> > > > > > > >> and accepted by all.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I hope this gets you started. Basically, it comes down to
> > > > > > > >> this: Don't
> > > > > > > wait
> > > > > > > >> on ceremony (but don't be rude, of course) and do get
> > > > > > > >> going on the localization if you have the resources or
> > > > > > > >> energies to get others to work
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > >> it.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > > > >> Louis
> > > > > > > >> On 2010-03-01, at 23:34 , Linux Master wrote:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Please, can anyone look into my issue?
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hello dev list,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the
> > > > > > > >>>> Albanian team (sq),
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> there has not been any response for far.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I have not received any response from the team leader
> > > > > > > >>>> Shkumbin Saneja
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > >> all. Since the last piece of work this team did was for
> > > > > > > >> OOO 1.1.4 I
> > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > >> this team is not active anymore.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team
> > > > > > > >>>> leader needs to
> > > > > > > >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive
> > > > > > > >> because of him.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was
> > > > > > > >>>>> almost 5 years
> > > > > > > >> ago.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Please help. I want to take over this project and get
> > > > > > > >>>> some active
> > > > > > > people
> > > > > > > >> involved. Many have gone to launchpad and are translating
> > > > > > > >> OpenOffice for Ubuntu in Albanian. For me, that's not the
> > > > > > > >> right level to translate
> > > > > > > since
> > > > > > > >> only Ubuntu and sub distros of Ubuntu will benefit.
> > > > > > > >>>> But, can only guess that many of them tried to register
> > > > > > > >>>> here, but
> > > > > > > >> because no one admitted they have found another place to
> > > > > > > >> have fun.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>> //Agroni
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Subject:
> > > > > > > >>>> Re: [Issue 103426] Albanian team leader not active for
> > > > > > > >>>> 4 years From:
> > > > > > > >>>> Louis Suarez-Potts <lui...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >>>> Date:
> > > > > > > >>>> Sun, 14 Feb 2010 10:34:55 -0500
> > > > > > > >>>> To:
> > > > > > > >>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> To:
> > > > > > > >>>> linuxmas...@verizon.net
> > > > > > > >>>> CC:
> > > > > > > >>>> southerncr...@openoffice.org
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Hello, Agroni,
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> On 2010-02-13, at 21:20 , linuxmas...@verizon.net
> > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Hi Charles and Louis,
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Since August 2009 I have been trying to join the
> > > > > > > >>>>> Albanian team (sq),
> > > > > > > >> but there has not been any response for far.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> I have not received any response from the team leader
> > > > > > > >>>>> Shkumbin Saneja
> > > > > > > >> at all.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Since the last piece of work this team did was for OOO
> > > > > > > >>>>> 1.1.4 I
> > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > >> this team is not active anymore.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Please look into this matter. If the current team
> > > > > > > >>>>> leader needs to
> > > > > > > >> approve things, it means that the whole team is inactive
> > > > > > > >> because of him.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> From what I can see, the last thing this team did was
> > > > > > > >>>>> almost 5 years
> > > > > > > >> ago.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Please help.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Thanks,
> > > > > > > >>>>> //Agroni
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> I think the best tactic here is to inform the broader
> > > > > > > >>>> lists via
> > > > > > > >> d...@native-lang and also d...@l10n about this situation.
> > > > > > > >> It's normal in Foss projects, which are often
> > > > > > > >> volunteer-run, for the responsible to disappear as they
> > > > > > > >> become engaged in other (often remunerative)
> > > > > > > activities.
> > > > > > > >> It's life. But equally, we can always and always are
> > > > > > > >> soliciting new interest.
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Given the nature of Albanian and its polity, I'd also
> > > > > > > >>>> wonder if it
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > >> help to engage government support?
> > > > > > > >>>> Foss saves money. Gives freedom. Builds local
> > > > > > > >>>> economies. Is good. :-)
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>> Ciao
> > > > > > > >>>> Louis
> > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Feb 6, 2010 09:19:44 PM, iss...@www.openoffice.org
> > > > > > > >>>>> wrote: To comment on the following update, log in,
> > > > > > > >>>>> then open the issue:
> > > > > > > >>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=103426
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> User agroni changed the following:
> > > > > > > >>>>>
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> > > > > > > >>>>> Still no response from no one.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Looks like the whole albanian team has abandoned this
> > > > > > > >>>>> project.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Please, assign me as a new albanian team leader.
> > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > >>>>> Come on, please, it's been 6 months since the last
> > > > > > > >>>>> post here.
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