Hello Alexandro, Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 11:37:33 -0500, Alexandro Colorado <j...@openoffice.org> a écrit :
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Charles-H. Schulz < > charles-h.sch...@laposte.net> wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I think this mail will prove that we can have sometimes no conflict > > of interest. Wearing my hat of the Document Foundation, I'd like to > > state the following things: > > - Everyone, yes, everyone is welcome to join the LibreOffice Project > > and the Document Foundation. > > - We, the Document Foundation, have not asked to Alexandro Colorado > > to put that message on any web page of the OOo ES project. > > - He and the ES community are welcome to join us, but it is by > > leaving contributors free to choose their own path and not by > > forcing them that we work. We believe in freedom, not constraint, > > and do not wish to see confusion taking place. > > > > Wearing my OOo NLC hat: > > - unilateral actions depriving contributors of the > > most elementary tools of communication are a very bad thing. While > > I'm sure some people may disagree, debates and discussions are > > good, not constraint, one cannot just shut up mailing lists out of > > the blue. I would like to ask Alexandro, if that's possible to > > reinstate the mailing lists and their archive. > > > > We are moving to our own mailing list, so for that, we are compiling a > database of the members of the list, *we are still subscribing them > to the list*. However through a database 'proxy' where we could > retrieve the 'community' of contributors. We have held several > meetings on the matter and agree the message was a bit missleading. > But to say that we were shutting down the lists, well the lists are > still running and can still be consulted openly. okay. But then it is not accurate to say that you are joining the Document Foundation. In fact you're not joining it. You are seceding from the OpenOffice.org community, that's accurate. Best, Charles. > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Charles-H. Schulz. > > > > > > Le Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:57:53 -0300, > > Ariel Constenla-Haile <ariel.constenla.ha...@googlemail.com> a > > écrit : > > > > > Hello Louis, > > > > > > On Tuesday 19 October 2010, 01:36, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > > I just learned of this site on the ES project and would > > > > respectfully ask the lead of the project—Alexandro—to remove > > > > it, as it would seem to only instil confusion in the community, > > > > and to me is a transgressive use—a misuse—of OpenOffice.org > > > > resources. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html > > > > > > me and other members of the Spanish-speaking community have been > > > asking him to remove this page, and put the link to the project > > > lists http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList > > > > > > And this since the 4th October without any kind of answer from his > > > side, see > > > http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=users&msgNo=9038 > > > > > > Notice that the original message on > > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html said > > > > > > "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de > > > OpenOffice.org a DocumentFoundation y LibreOffice. Favor de > > > registrarte aqu en:" > > > > > > last time I checked this, on Sunday. > > > Now the message has changed to > > > > > > "Estamos trabajando en migrar a las nuevas listas de OOoES. Favor > > > de registrarte aqu en:" > > > > > > but anyway this is not like > > > http://es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList > > > and it seems he is still trying to collect OOo user's mails using > > > OOo resources to migrate them when there is an ES LO mailing > > > list, as said in his original message: > > > > > > "facilitar la migracion a DocumentFoundation asociandote a nuestra > > > newsletter para poder mantener tu correo y contactarte con el > > > nuevo correo que posiblemente haya en DocumentFoundation en > > > Espanol." > > > > > > > > > Besides this, I find very un-ethical that > > > > > > * while he unilaterally took the decision to put the message on > > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html > > > > > > * he is still being Co-Lead of http://es.openoffice.org > > > Co-Lead of http://education.openoffice.org > > > Project Lead of http://certification.openoffice.org/ > > > > > > * he is evidently promoting LO/TDF, see > > > http://www.slideshare.net/jza/10-aos-de-openofficeorg > > > and his obvious invitation orignally on > > > http://es.openoffice.org/comunidad/listas.html (not the one you > > > can read today) > > > > > > I find very un-ethical that he sees no COI at all, and still > > > tries to travel using OOo reources > > > http://marketing.openoffice.org/servlets/ReadMsg?list=dev&msgNo=31039 > > > But this discussion is for another thread... > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@native-lang.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@native-lang.openoffice.org
