On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 9:47 AM Jeremy Cavanagh <jeremy.cavan...@orange.fr> wrote:
> Hi Tim, > > That is most impressive, and yet terrifying at the same time. It raises > even more questions for me. How does anyone know where anything is? > > You've had several responses to that question already in this thread. The NetBeans source code is structured in functional areas -- called clusters, each cluster containing modules that together provide the features defining the cluster. E.g., the 'java' cluster provides all the modules defining the Java features, the 'php' cluster provides all the modules defining the PHP features. Take a look at the GitHub repo -- the clusters are the top level folders: https://github.com/apache/netbeans Gj > Probably not for discussion here but, what use is software engineering, > design methodologies etc., is software development just an enormous > hackathon? > > Food for thought. > > Many thanks to everyone who replied to my original post. > > Jeremy > > > On 07/11/2019 03:29, Tim Boudreau wrote: > > A few people asked for a visual representation. I pulled this together a > > few years ago. Mostly it just illustrates why those kinds of > > representations are useless at scale. > > > > Package dependencies: > > > > https://timboudreau.com/files/nb-packagegraph/ > > > > Classes (IIRC trimmed down a LOT): > > > > https://timboudreau.com/files/netbeans-classes/ > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:57 PM Eric Bresie <ebresie...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Is this a reason to push for the UML plugin ;-) > > > > > > There are no reasons to push for uml, ever :-) > > > > -Tim > > > > > > > >> > >> Eric Bresie > >> ebre...@gmail.com > >>> On November 6, 2019 at 9:02:49 AM CST, Eric Barboni <sk...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> Not sure that is what you want. > >>> > >>> ((A small help can be > >>> If you get the sources, do a first build: > >>> ant > >>> you can then do > >>> ant index-layer-paths > >>> > >>> this will create in nbbuild/build/generated layers.txt and services.txt > >>> where given a " UI element" " mimetype" "project type" you can find > >> which module provide it (this is a bit too textual). > >>> )) > >>> > >>> Maybe you want a more complex visualization, with rectangle and edge > but > >> I guess should be some layout and "dynamic page" to filter ( or 8K > monitors > >> :p). Modules are legion. > >>> > >>> Best Regards > >>> Eric > >>> -----Message d'origine----- > >>> De : Christian Lenz <christian.l...@gmx.net> > >>> Envoyé : mercredi 6 novembre 2019 15:43 > >>> À : dev@netbeans.apache.org > >>> Objet : AW: NetBeans Design > >>> > >>> ➢ And this IMHO continues to be the best book on the NetBeans Platform: > >>> > >>> ➢ https://leanpub.com/nbp4beginners > >>> > >>> ➢ Gj > >>> > >>> Hey Geertjan, > >>> > >>> how does that fit in the reworked/categorized structure. Is the book > >> still up to date? Just asking. > >>> > >>> > >>> Cheers > >>> > >>> Chris > >>> > >>> > >>> Von: Geertjan Wielenga > >>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. November 2019 15:34 > >>> An: dev > >>> Betreff: Re: NetBeans Design > >>> > >>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:09 PM Christoph Theis <th...@gmx.at> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I have the same problem: > >>>> E.g., NB doesn't accept a current javahl. So, where would I find the > >>>> module where the check happened (I grep'ed for the error message and > >>>> found it). Are there dependencies? If I want to improve the error > >>>> message (right now it is hidden in the log files), how to do it? > >>>> > >>>> So, summarizing, an eagles view of what NB is composed of, would be a > >>>> start. Sthg., that would help newcomers to understand the code of NB. > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> In many ways, the current GitHub structure provides the eagle's view > you > >>> seek: > >>> > >>> https://github.com/apache/netbeans > >>> > >>> Rather than it being a long list of modules, the above categorizes them > >> into their clusters, reflecting what you see in your NetBeans > installation > >> directory. > >>> > >>> Indeed, grepping is a good approach to find the code you need to work > >> with. > >>> > >>> You can also search directly in the GitHub repo on-line in the web > >> interface. > >>> > >>> The dependencies of any modules are always listed in the project.xml > >> file of a module. > >>> > >>> And this IMHO continues to be the best book on the NetBeans Platform: > >>> > >>> https://leanpub.com/nbp4beginners > >>> > >>> Gj > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> @Jeremy: I hope I got your point. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Best regards > >>>> > >>>> Christoph > >>>> > >>>> On 06.11.2019 14:24, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > >>>>> What specific things are you looking for? > >>>>> > >>>>> Gj > >>>>> > >>>>> On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 14:05, Jeremy Cavanagh > >>>>> <jeremy.cavan...@orange.fr> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hi All, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I was just wondering if there was a design document for NetBeans > >>>>>> which shows how all the pieces fit together? I ask this because > >>>>>> whenever I look at incubator-netbeans I have no idea of what I'm > >>>>>> looking at, or where to find things. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I really hope there is, particularly if it includes structure > >>>>>> diagrams > >>>> etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jeremy > >>>> > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >>>> > >>>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > >>> > >>> For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > >>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > >
