Hi all

Does it make sense to create a separate donation repository? Maybe similar to a mini incubator.

I mean at ASF we can create multiple repositories, completely independent of the self service side.

We put the oracle donations there, in separated branches packed to topic or donation packages.

If one package is converted and is technically ready for merge into the main tree, Oracle creates a sign Off commit,

and then the packages moves over to the main tree.

This would allow a broader community work on the donation code, but still guarantees the control at Oracle.

Just an Idea. At least in CND donation it would be nice to have a official incubating branch for the module.

Not sure if I got all the wording right.

All the Best

Peter

Am 25.02.20 um 14:16 schrieb Junichi Yamamoto:
Hi Geertjan,

If it is not donated, we can't put it in an apache repository.
(Although I think it is better to exist in the apache repository.)
If it is removed in the future, I'll create a repository for it with
my GitHub account, maybe.
I'm not sure whether there is a problem if we don't use it because I'm
not the author of it.
Maybe, files related to the parser will become one huge file.
I think that we can use it even if it is not donated because the
sources/binaries of the tool are not included in the release.

Tomas, What do you think?

Thanks,
Junichi


On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:47 AM Junichi Yamamoto <junichi0...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi Geertjan,

We use [1] when we generate PHP parser files. Is it going to be donated?

Hi Junichi,

Is it critical to include this and what does it do exactly and if it were
to not be donated (it is outside the release repository which is the focus
of our donation) how bad would that be?

Thanks,

Gj




Maybe, we can put it in [2].

[1] https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file/tip/php/parser.cutter
[2] https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools

Thanks,
Junichi

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:46 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
wrote:
Hi all,

At this stage, now that the C/C++ donation is complete (though not
integrated yet into Apache NetBeans GitHub, a work in progress) Oracle
has
donated all the pieces of NetBeans that is can donate from Oracle
NetBeans
8.2.

Based on various questions, this remains:

c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core

https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core
c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest

https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest
jira https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira
jira.rest https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira.rest
jira.xmlrpc https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira.xmlrpc
libs.jira.rest
https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/libs.jira.rest
As well as "contrib", but surely not all of "contrib":

https://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file

There's also the community repositories and code that has not been worked
on for many years:

community-xml
nb.cluster.javacard
nb.cluster.mobility
community-rub
community-soa
community-uml
community-visualweb

So, here's my proposal -- Oracle will only spend time on working on
further
donations for code that we in Apache are actually committed to work on.
I.e., if there is no one in the Apache NetBeans community committed to
working on the above (i.e., not simply using it, but will actually take
ownership, integrate the code into our GitHub and actively develop it
further), then Oracle will not spend time donating that code.

The responses to this thread should be along the lines of:

1. "This is terrible news. The XYZ code is very important to Apache
NetBeans or to me or to someone and I will be actively working on it once
Oracle donates it to Apache."

2. "It would be a pity that XYZ is not part of Apache NetBeans, but I
will
not be working on it myself, so I can't expect Oracle to work on donating
it either."

I give us one week, i.e, this time next week, we will see where we are
and
then decide which, if any, of the remaining code will be audited on the
Oracle side for donation.

Thanks,

Gj
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