Yes, I think if the CND work Jan has done would be available in a branch or
some repo at Apache, that would help a lot and we'd have a centralized
starting point.

Gj

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 5:39 AM Peter Kovacs <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Does it make sense to create a separate donation repository? Maybe
> similar to a mini incubator.
>
> I mean at ASF we can create multiple repositories, completely
> independent of the self service side.
>
> We put the oracle donations there, in separated branches packed to topic
> or donation packages.
>
> If one package is converted and is technically ready for merge into the
> main tree, Oracle creates a sign Off commit,
>
> and then the packages moves over to the main tree.
>
> This would allow a broader community work on the donation code, but
> still guarantees the control at Oracle.
>
> Just an Idea. At least in CND donation it would be nice to have a
> official incubating branch for the module.
>
> Not sure if I got all the wording right.
>
> All the Best
>
> Peter
>
> Am 25.02.20 um 14:16 schrieb Junichi Yamamoto:
> > Hi Geertjan,
> >
> > If it is not donated, we can't put it in an apache repository.
> > (Although I think it is better to exist in the apache repository.)
> > If it is removed in the future, I'll create a repository for it with
> > my GitHub account, maybe.
> > I'm not sure whether there is a problem if we don't use it because I'm
> > not the author of it.
> > Maybe, files related to the parser will become one huge file.
> > I think that we can use it even if it is not donated because the
> > sources/binaries of the tool are not included in the release.
> >
> > Tomas, What do you think?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Junichi
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 9:16 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2020 at 3:47 AM Junichi Yamamoto <junichi0...@gmail.com
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Geertjan,
> >>>
> >>> We use [1] when we generate PHP parser files. Is it going to be
> donated?
> >>>
> >> Hi Junichi,
> >>
> >> Is it critical to include this and what does it do exactly and if it
> were
> >> to not be donated (it is outside the release repository which is the
> focus
> >> of our donation) how bad would that be?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Gj
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Maybe, we can put it in [2].
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://hg.netbeans.org/main/misc/file/tip/php/parser.cutter
> >>> [2] https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Junichi
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 7:46 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geert...@apache.org
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> At this stage, now that the C/C++ donation is complete (though not
> >>>> integrated yet into Apache NetBeans GitHub, a work in progress) Oracle
> >>> has
> >>>> donated all the pieces of NetBeans that is can donate from Oracle
> >>> NetBeans
> >>>> 8.2.
> >>>>
> >>>> Based on various questions, this remains:
> >>>>
> >>>> c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core
> >>>> c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest
> >>>>
> >>>
> https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest
> >>>> jira https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira
> >>>> jira.rest https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira.rest
> >>>> jira.xmlrpc https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/jira.xmlrpc
> >>>> libs.jira.rest
> >>> https://hg.netbeans.org/main-golden/file/tip/libs.jira.rest
> >>>> As well as "contrib", but surely not all of "contrib":
> >>>>
> >>>> https://hg.netbeans.org/main/contrib/file
> >>>>
> >>>> There's also the community repositories and code that has not been
> worked
> >>>> on for many years:
> >>>>
> >>>> community-xml
> >>>> nb.cluster.javacard
> >>>> nb.cluster.mobility
> >>>> community-rub
> >>>> community-soa
> >>>> community-uml
> >>>> community-visualweb
> >>>>
> >>>> So, here's my proposal -- Oracle will only spend time on working on
> >>> further
> >>>> donations for code that we in Apache are actually committed to work
> on.
> >>>> I.e., if there is no one in the Apache NetBeans community committed to
> >>>> working on the above (i.e., not simply using it, but will actually
> take
> >>>> ownership, integrate the code into our GitHub and actively develop it
> >>>> further), then Oracle will not spend time donating that code.
> >>>>
> >>>> The responses to this thread should be along the lines of:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1. "This is terrible news. The XYZ code is very important to Apache
> >>>> NetBeans or to me or to someone and I will be actively working on it
> once
> >>>> Oracle donates it to Apache."
> >>>>
> >>>> 2. "It would be a pity that XYZ is not part of Apache NetBeans, but I
> >>> will
> >>>> not be working on it myself, so I can't expect Oracle to work on
> donating
> >>>> it either."
> >>>>
> >>>> I give us one week, i.e, this time next week, we will see where we are
> >>> and
> >>>> then decide which, if any, of the remaining code will be audited on
> the
> >>>> Oracle side for donation.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Gj
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