I would be in favor of including it in 12.6, since these feature releases
are intended for that purpose, i.e., as experimental and not too big a deal
if things aren't perfect.

However, I will default to Neil, since he has an objection here and is
doing most of the release management work.

Gj

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 1:46 PM Neil C Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 at 23:16, Michael Bien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 17.10.21 18:17, Jaroslav Tulach wrote:
> > >> This is a week later than in the schedule, primarily due to the delay
> > >> in merging nb-javac with JDK 17 support.
> > > Shalln't we integrate the nb-javac for real? E.g.:
> > > https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/3251
>
> -1 from me for 12.6.  I'm not sure a few days before freeze is the
> time to be changing how we distribute nb-javac.
>
> Possible +1 for 13, but I think there are things to resolve first,
> including the things Michael mentions ...
>
> > this would make it available by default, but is it still possible to
> > turn it off, e.g to test java 18 code?
>
> This, definitely.  Should it be enabled by default, opt in, or opt
> out?  Do we need to improve the UI for this?  How do people test with
> Java 18 etc.?  What about all the issues we've suggested people
> disable it for in the past?
>
> > it would be also nice to have a build job building the automatically
> > backported nb-javac from openjdk HEAD and put that somewhere. E.g the
> > plugin portal or on github at least (install both side by side with the
> > option to switch?).
>
> I'd like to see this too.  And a better update story for nb-javac in
> general.  How is it managed in future?  Ideally we shouldn't be having
> to delay NetBeans releases on it.  And ideally we should be looking to
> have it in testing in advance of JDK releases.
>
> And that all leads to a question of whether there is general consensus
> to make this move?
>
> None of that is resolvable and testable in a few days IMO.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Neil
>
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