Would it be worth allowing selection of LAF at install time? Maybe a wizard with other customization (plugins, language, fonts, formatting, etc.)? This may take a page from Intellij but maybe..,
On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:02 PM Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote: > I just played around with FlatLaf Light on Ubuntu 20.04 and NetBeans 12.5 > > The fonts look much clearer than they have been. > > It's "bright", but then I suppose that's what the light version is > supposed to be. I'll see how tired my eyes get after a day or so of using. > > I can always revert. > > It looks reasonable, and I didn't see any color issues that were too bad > (maybe a little light on XML comments). > > The colors in FlatLaf dark still end up being too "muddied" for day to > day use in the editor. That's the curse of being red/green color deficient. > > +0 for me. > > . . . just my two cents > /mde/ > > On 11/1/2021 11:04 AM, Mark Eggers wrote: > > -0 on this. > > > > I am red/green color deficient. I've tried using FlatLaf several times, > > and I just could not get the color selection to work where everything > > was different and yet easy for me to read. > > > > I'll try again on 12.5, but for now I've stuck with the Windows LAF for > > my Windows systems and Nimbus (don't laugh) for my GtK systems due to > > some font scaling issues. > > > > I'll try FlatLaf with 12.5 on Ubuntu 20.04 to see how it goes, but > > Nimbus seems to work fine for me at the moment. > > > > Changing the default is not an issue with me since I currently do it > > anyway. About the only issue with changing away from FlatLaf is that I > > have to change the editor LAF separately from the IDE LAF (last time I > > tried). > > > > I'm mostly a systems admin / architect these days so my NetBeans usage > > centers around proof of concepts and tracking down memory leaks in Java > > web applications. > > > > In short, I'm more of a casual user at this point. > > > > . . . . just my two cents > > /mde/ > > > > Thanks for a great platform, and hopefully one day soon I'll actually be > > able to contribute. > > > > On 11/1/2021 7:56 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote: > >> +1 on this one. Maybe if we could even the installer should be on > >> FlatLaf (right now on GTK with dark schema, the license agreement text > >> is white over white, need to select it to be able to read that.) > >> > >> I use FlatLaf Light for the release versions and FlatLaf Dark on the > >> dev builds. > >> > >> On 11/1/21 07:01, Neil C Smith wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release > >>> will be NetBeans 13, require JDK 11+, and hopefully ship with nb-javac > >>> included .. is it time we changed (improved?! :-) ) how NetBeans looks > >>> out of the box too? > >>> > >>> Should we consider FlatLaf (light or dark) as the default look and > >>> feel from NetBeans 13? > >>> > >>> This is partly prompted by working through a few JIRA tickets with > >>> HiDPI issues resolved by switching, a few snarky social media comments > >>> about NetBeans' appearance I've seen recently where the go-to replies > >>> seem to just be to tell people to switch to FlatLaf .. and the fact > >>> I'm constantly switching even when debugging because the GTK theme on > >>> Ubuntu is borderline unusable. > >>> > >>> So, what do you think? For or against? Maybe also add what you do > >>> use, and light or dark, in a reply - it might make some sense if we > >>> defaulted to what the majority of us use in practise? > >>> > >>> Best wishes, > >>> > >>> Neil > > -- Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com
