+1…I still use Darcula on OS X, but the flatlaf dark is also nice.  

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> On Nov 2, 2021, at 5:23 PM, Michael Bien <mbie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> the dialog would have to restart NB after the theme selection. I think it 
> would look better if the main window wasn't opened yet.
> 
> 
> -michael
> 
>> On 02.11.21 17:39, Ernie Rael wrote:
>> How about the Start Page, aka Welcome Screen, for basic/initial/beginner 
>> configuration and pointers; and it's always available via "Menu > Help > 
>> StartPage".
>> 
>> -ernie
>> 
>>> On 11/1/2021 5:53 PM, Eric Bresie wrote:
>>> Would it be worth allowing selection of LAF at install time?  Maybe a
>>> wizard with other customization (plugins, language, fonts, formatting,
>>> etc.)?  This may take a page from Intellij but maybe..,
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 6:02 PM Mark Eggers <its_toas...@yahoo.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just played around with FlatLaf Light on Ubuntu 20.04 and NetBeans 12.5
>>>> 
>>>> The fonts look much clearer than they have been.
>>>> 
>>>> It's "bright", but then I suppose that's what the light version is
>>>> supposed to be. I'll see how tired my eyes get after a day or so of using.
>>>> 
>>>> I can always revert.
>>>> 
>>>> It looks reasonable, and I didn't see any color issues that were too bad
>>>> (maybe a little light on XML comments).
>>>> 
>>>> The colors in FlatLaf dark still end up being too "muddied" for day to
>>>> day use in the editor. That's the curse of being red/green color deficient.
>>>> 
>>>> +0 for me.
>>>> 
>>>> . . . just my two cents
>>>> /mde/
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/1/2021 11:04 AM, Mark Eggers wrote:
>>>>> -0 on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am red/green color deficient. I've tried using FlatLaf several times,
>>>>> and I just could not get the color selection to work where everything
>>>>> was different and yet easy for me to read.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll try again on 12.5, but for now I've stuck with the Windows LAF for
>>>>> my Windows systems and Nimbus (don't laugh) for my GtK systems due to
>>>>> some font scaling issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll try FlatLaf with 12.5 on Ubuntu 20.04 to see how it goes, but
>>>>> Nimbus seems to work fine for me at the moment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Changing the default is not an issue with me since I currently do it
>>>>> anyway. About the only issue with changing away from FlatLaf is that I
>>>>> have to change the editor LAF separately from the IDE LAF (last time I
>>>>> tried).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm mostly a systems admin / architect these days so my NetBeans usage
>>>>> centers around proof of concepts and tracking down memory leaks in Java
>>>>> web applications.
>>>>> 
>>>>> In short, I'm more of a casual user at this point.
>>>>> 
>>>>> . . . . just my two cents
>>>>> /mde/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for a great platform, and hopefully one day soon I'll actually be
>>>>> able to contribute.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/1/2021 7:56 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
>>>>>> +1 on this one. Maybe if we could even the installer should be on
>>>>>> FlatLaf (right now on GTK with dark schema, the license agreement text
>>>>>> is white over white, need to select it to be able to read that.)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I use FlatLaf Light for the release versions and FlatLaf Dark on the
>>>>>> dev builds.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 11/1/21 07:01, Neil C Smith wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, now we've branched off 12.6, and we know that the next release
>>>>>>> will be NetBeans 13, require JDK 11+, and hopefully ship with nb-javac
>>>>>>> included .. is it time we changed (improved?! :-) ) how NetBeans looks
>>>>>>> out of the box too?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Should we consider FlatLaf (light or dark) as the default look and
>>>>>>> feel from NetBeans 13?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is partly prompted by working through a few JIRA tickets with
>>>>>>> HiDPI issues resolved by switching, a few snarky social media comments
>>>>>>> about NetBeans' appearance I've seen recently where the go-to replies
>>>>>>> seem to just be to tell people to switch to FlatLaf .. and the fact
>>>>>>> I'm constantly switching even when debugging because the GTK theme on
>>>>>>> Ubuntu is borderline unusable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, what do you think?  For or against?  Maybe also add what you do
>>>>>>> use, and light or dark, in a reply - it might make some sense if we
>>>>>>> defaulted to what the majority of us use in practise?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Neil
>>>> -- 
>>> Eric Bresie
>>> ebre...@gmail.com
>>> 
>> 
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