I'd say, avoid customization in both the installer and on startup. It's a lot better to have a robust discussion about defaults here, and then stick to whatever we decide.
There are hundreds of options that can be customized, and there is real value-add in _not_ requiring the user (especially new users) to know about or touch them. We also don't want a situation where we end up having two different user interfaces for setting the same options. A user that changed the LAF from a startup dialog or installer would then have to find and use a _different_ user interface (the Options dialog) to change it again later. -- Eirik -----Original Message----- From: Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 4:53 AM To: dev@netbeans.apache.org Subject: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13? On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 08:32, Jaroslav Tulach <jaroslav.tul...@gmail.com> wrote: > NetBeans IDE was always keen on to work "out of the box" - e.g. as > little dialogs on 1st start as possible. If you want prior launch > customization, put it into installer. But what is the difference? In general, I agree with you. This thread has gone on a bit of a tangent, which is about a default that works better out of the box. I don't think we need a dialog for this option. I do think we need to fix up the current dialogs, and probably look at putting some of this stuff on a revamped start page. However, the problem with putting options in the installers is the assumption that everyone uses them. And that there's a one-to-one relationship between installation and userdir. Neither applies. Whatever we do should work however people get hold of and run the IDE. I also think NBI either needs a lot of work or replacing. I'm in the latter camp, obviously! :-) Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
