➢ 3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for ➢ that is already there
It is not about that the UI for this is already there or not, it is about I need to restart NetBeans which I don’t want. If we do this as soon as possible, it feels better and I don’t need to restart netBeans I guess, so that it can hook into the Startup process. - No Startup Dialog We already have one „Import Settings“ so why not reuse it? This dialog just comes up, if you have a previous Version installed. If not, it will not appear. Now that needs to be changed. As I said, we have multiple feelings about this and we already had a vote for „made flat laf default“. I can live with that somehow and I gave my opinion. I would prefer another vote for where we see default Settings or customize it at the beginning. Or we can change this later, I’m fine with that. Maybe it will be possible for me to create a 3rd Party plugin where I hook into the process of NetBeans startup before the UI is there and I can make this happen within a plugin to customize the IDE from the very first start. Von: Michael Bien Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 16:54 An: dev@netbeans.apache.org; Christian Lenz Betreff: Re: AW: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13? On 29.11.21 16:28, Christian Lenz wrote: > I don’t get it atm. What is the preferred solution now? Open the options when > NetBeans is still open or what? That means that I need to restart NetBeans > again. Probably I got it wrong. 1) set LightLAF as default which should hopefully work for many as discussed here 2) notify user somehow that the default can be changed. e.g via convenient link in welcome page or via notification bubble or both (this would link to the options) 3) if user changes settings it will require restart yes but the UI for that is already there => - no startup dialog - no duplicated UI - potential to be further optimized in future by letting it probe to make a more educated decision whether to automatically set the dark theme instead of light > > Von: Neil C Smith > Gesendet: Montag, 29. November 2021 15:36 > An: dev@netbeans.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Default to FlatLaf in NetBeans 13? > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 at 15:20, Eirik Bakke <eba...@ultorg.com> wrote: >> There are hundreds of options that can be customized, and there is real >> value-add in _not_ requiring the user (especially new users) to know about >> or touch them. >> >> We also don't want a situation where we end up having two different user >> interfaces for setting the same options. A user that changed the LAF from a >> startup dialog or installer would then have to find and use a _different_ >> user interface (the Options dialog) to change it again later. > This is a very good point! > > This thread came partly from issues with people finding (the right) > options, and a default that doesn't match what most of us are doing. > But for common options that people might want to customize, then a > better welcome page would beat a dialog. Because rather than setting > the option, we could just open the options dialog in the right place > to show them where to set it. > > eg. big button on welcome page with text "Switch to dark or system > look and feel" opens the look and feel tab in the options. > > We could have defaults that match what most of us use, and 6-8 quick > links for settings that a lot of us change? And keep the current > direct links to install plugins or activate features, which could look > a little more like you're meant to press them! > > Best wishes, > > Neil > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
