I support Netbeans and am trying to make it a better product by adding value to it and become a better coder in the process.
Short version: So what happens now with the abandoned code? Long version: I'm not a NetBean core developer, I don't speak for Apache or Oracle, I'm not a PMC member, I do not speak for any of the individual projects (in the case of Python for nbPython, for JIRA, UML, etc). As such I do not have the authority to represent on matters of "IP clearances" so forgive me for trying all due diligence to do things in an acceptable manner. Donation process is not simple and involves a lot of hard work. Past efforts have not been overlooked but have been greatly appreciated. I acknowledge Oracle probably does not want to spend any more time, money, or effort on this. Based on (1) the contribution code/participation page, the indication seems to imply the need for IP Clearance (2) in support of incubation (which has come and gone already). I believe some of the donation is pending this. Attempts have been made in the past with in most cases, at the time indication was to wait on the donations to come through before doing anything else. So if no no further actions on donations are expected, what does that mean for the remaining code? At a minimum can something be documented on the Apache Transition page to say as much (3)? So for anything not covered by previous efforts, what is to become of them? Is nothing to be done and these are abandoned work? I think indication is asking for someone to take ownership of a given project (updates licenses, maintenance, etc). Okay... When I tried in the past (7) I was basically told none of it would be accepted until the work was done against the official donation was complete (I've stopped working on it since), even after spending a significant amount of time working with what was available at the time. It was suggested work on new code which I am in the process of attempting (8). Per (4) there are a few sources of older code (5) (6). Maybe a better question is, in lieu of lack of "official donation" can the code from one of the clones/conversions be used to continue the work for the abandoned project? And if so, what is needed at a minimum for the work to be accepted by Apache and the community as a whole (i.e. is adding applicable licenses header)? I've taken in the input and tried to move things forward and tried to provide input as well...and for all my attempts, I get looked down on and rejected for the hard work in trying to fill a major gap missing in the NetBeans (i.e. Python) or add value to the code. If this is the sort of community being built, maybe I need to find another community. Eric Bresie ebre...@gmail.com References: (1) https://netbeans.apache.org/participate/submit-pr.html#contributing-code (2) https://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ (3) https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition (4) https://netbeans.apache.org/about/oracle-transition.html (5) a clone of the Mercurial repositories at http://source.apidesign.org/hg/netbeans/ (6) conversion of Mercurial to git is available at https://github.com/emilianbold/netbeans-releases (7) https://github.com/ebresie/netbeans/tree/nbpython_integration3 On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 3:56 PM Geertjan Wielenga <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > Pick one of these that you (or someone else) are personally going to be > working on, what your schedule is, your timeline, and deliverables. > > No, Oracle owes you nothing at all. No, we will not ask Oracle to donate > one more line of code that is not going to be owned by a very specific > person with an actual plan. > > Gj > > > > On Fri, 6 May 2022 at 19:37, Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I'm asking again, because there is more than just Python in the donation. > > > > Further, unless I've missed it, I've not seen an official "Donation 6 is > > done", "Donation 6 is ready for review" , or any such notification. > > > > Based on > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+Transition > > > > > > - JIRA support > > - > > > > jira > > - > > > > jira.rest > > - > > > > jira.xmlrpc > > - > > > > Wrappers to third party libraries > > (c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.commons.core, > > c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core, > > c.atlassian.connector.eclipse.jira.core.rest, c.s.jersey, > > c.s.mail.javax.mail, javax.servlet, javax.wsdl, javax.xml.rpc, > > javax.xml.soap, libs.jira.rest, o.apache.axis, > > o.apache.commons.discovery, > > o.codehaus.jettison, o.eclipse.mylyn.commons.soap, > > o.eclipse.mylyn.monitor.ui.dummy, o.joda.time) > > - contrib – > > - ant.freeform.samples > > - apisupport.beanbrowser > > - apisupport.projectinspector > > - autoproject.core > > - autoproject.java > > - autoproject.profiler > > - autoproject.web > > - autosave – possibly to be contributed by its non-Oracle authors > > rather than Oracle? > > - editor.fscompletion > > - gsf > > - gsf.api > > - gsf.tools > > - gsfpath.api > > - insertunicode > > - java.fscompletion > > - javahints > > - javahints.generate > > - licensechanger > > - modulemanager > > - mount > > - o.n.contrib.debuggerretry > > - python.x (15 modules, including the wrappers o.jython, > > o.jython.distro) – possibly to be contributed by its non-Oracle > > authors > > rather than Oracle? > > - quickfilechooser > > - spellchecker.hunspell > > - sysprops > > - community clusters: > > - community-xml (2326 files) > > - community-uml (6365 files) > > > > > > Eric Bresie > > ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 9:10 AM Geertjan Wielenga > > <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.invalid> wrote: > > > > > You've asked this several times at this point -- each time you've had > > > an answer already. I believe there's nothing that needs to be donated > > > anymore. > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 4:03 PM Eric Bresie <ebre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > What is the current status of Donation 6? > > > > > > > > Is there any plans to complete this or has it been abandoned? > > > > > > > > Eric Bresie > > > > ebre...@gmail.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
