On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 16:50, Ernie Rael <err...@raelity.com> wrote: > > On 22/11/20 2:30 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 10:04, Neil C Smith <neilcsm...@apache.org> wrote: > >> I totally agree with the points raised there. We haven't had a > >> vaguely useful plugin catalog since NetBeans 13. The plugin catalog > >> for 16 is currently empty, so we're missing possibilities for testing. > >> > >> IMO an empty plugin catalog is a reason to delay the release of > >> NetBeans 16 until it's ready. > > So, we made a decision to hold fire on the release vote on this. The > > plugin catalog does now have some plugins in it, and at least enough > > to test setup. > > What is preventing previously verified plugins, with no known problems, > from being put into a verified state for the NB16 catalog?
No idea! I, for one, hope we can move to this by NB17. What is a definite is that NB17 freezes and branches Jan ~15th. We require a configured and populated plugin catalog for NB17 *before* that date. > Admittedly, I'd be uncomfortable if there wasn't an agreement to remove > verification if problems are confirmed. 100% And we need to improve verification speed of bug fixes. We may also want to consider how to notify people if a previously verified plugin has discovered issues and no update is yet available? eg. we had multiple issues reported for NetBeans that traced to BinEd plugin behaviour - this was made worse because the fixed version wasn't expedited (for whatever reason) via the plugin centre. My view on verification is that if a previously verified plugin version stops working between eg. NB15 and NB16, there's a chance, probably a higher chance, it's because something is broken in the IDE not the plugin! Let's encourage more plugin testing during the month-long RC phase. And as an aside, we should possibly consider asking users for a list of installed plugins on the issue report form. Best wishes, Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@netbeans.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@netbeans.apache.org For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists