After a few days of inactivity I realized that with volunteer development it is very easy to be outdated!
When I visited my fork in github I got a message "This branch is 62 commits behind apache:master." After a small research to update my fork: ~$ cd NetBeansProjects/ ~/NetBeansProjects$ cd incubator-netbeans/ ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git remote add upstream https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans.git ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git fetch upstream ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git pull upstream master ~/NetBeansProjects/incubator-netbeans$ git push My fork is up to date again!!! May be for some of you is a joke but can/will help many newbies!!! Feel free to modify it as you like and add it to Newbies Section!!! Also I think the Issue tracker idea is fantastic and you should spend some time thinking about it!! Cheers!! J! On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <john...@ionio.gr> wrote: > Wooooow!!! > > > I was thinking of making something like that but yours is even greater!!! > > J! > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:seva...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:02 PM > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > John thank you for the changes I think it looks very good now. I've added > few more sentences. > > Ioannis please take a look at > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > Development+Environment > > and let us know if there is anything else that would help you (and others) > to make the first steps in contributing. > > I think that we want to make people install and use NetBeans, so focus > should be on that. Not sure if there are any contributors who use other > IDEs and who want contribute to NetBeans development. This is maybe a bit > difefrent compared to other apache projects which tend to be IDE neutral > > Also it would be nice for issue tracker > https://issues.apache.org/jira/projects/NETBEANS to have some kind of > tags for difficulty level so newbies could filter out and quickly start > with simpler tasks. > > Cheers > Zoran > > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:12 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou <john...@ionio.gr> > wrote: > > > Thank you Zoran I think we can add some more details on the list! > > > > I really think is should exist in first place. > > > > Right now I'm busy with other stuff but I promise to come back in the > > next days. > > > > > > Cheers!!! > > > > J! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:seva...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:56 AM > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > Thank you Ioannis, its usefull for us to get the perspective of the > > new contributors. > > I've added your steps to > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > Development+Environment > > as the to the Quick Steps for Newbies section. > > I think that page is very important for attracting new developers and > > growing the community. I know that my students will be very happy to > > have this brief info in one place. > > > > Also I would rename that page to 'Getting started' or 'Quick start' as > > thats almost standard for most of the open source projects, and thats > > what peopke are looking for. > > Regarding the required software I would just put NetBeans IDE which > > already comes with Ant, Git and even with JDK. > > Since this page is targeted for absolute beginner this will help them > > to get started faster, and more advanced users would know what to do. > > Also I think that its ok to build NetBEans from the NetBeans, and not > > from the command line, since thats what Ioannis did, and that > > perfectly makes sense to me. > > Please let me know what you think about suggested changes? > > > > Thanks > > Zoran > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 12:03 AM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > wrote: > > > > > Thank you John! > > > > > > This is what I had in mind! > > > > > > Maybe you can add some links > > > Java SE Development Kit 8 > > > (http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/ > > > downloads/jdk8-downloads-2133151.html ) Git > > > (https://git-scm.com/downloads ) for Linux > > > https://git-scm.com/download/linux information for different > > > distributions. > > > > > > Ant I think is included in Netbeans 8.2 (I don't know about 9) > > > > > > We should improve the "How to get started locally" > > > I will tell you what I did so maybe you can correct it and upload it > > > > > > 1. Create an account on github (https://github.com/) 2. While logged > > > in visit https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > > 3. Fork the project to your account. > > > 4. Your git repository is https://github.com/USERNAME/ > > > incubator-netbeans.git 5. Inside Netbeans (8.2 I don't know about 9) > > > choose Team>Git>Clone... > > > 6. Fill in the form with your repository/username/password and the > > > local path to save 7. Click Next , Select master then Next and > > > finally finish. > > > 8. Download is starting and you get your local copy. > > > > > > --------- > > > I'm up to here right now I tried > > > $ant > > > But I have some errors that I have to check I will post the next > > > steps as I manage to move on! > > > > > > Keep on!!! > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: John McDonnell [mailto:mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:18 AM > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > Ioannis, > > > > > > I've added a Developer Environment page to Confluence: > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Developer+Envir > > > on > > > ment > > > > > > If you think there's something missing feel free to add to it, or > > > indeed let me know and I can add to the page. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > On 29 November 2017 at 21:41, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Yes, you can use NetBeans 8.2 to edit the code in your fork. > > > > > > > > In the netbeans.conf file, in NetBeans 8.2 installation directory, > > > > you can point to the JDK you want to use. In your fork, that is > > > > found in nbbuild/netbeans/etc. > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:38 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have already read all these! > > > > > > > > > > But you gave me a clue!!! > > > > > > > > > > I can work with my Netbeans 8.2 editing code from my git fork? > > > > > > > > > > When I run-test NB9 how do I set it to use JDK9 since I have > > > > > them > > > both??? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you!!! > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:26 PM > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > We do document all of these things here: > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS > > > > > > > > > > For example, you'll find this link: > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > > > > Installation+of+Apache+NetBeans > > > > > > > > > > The README at Apache Git also tells you to use JDK 8 (and > > > > > release of JDK > > > > > 8) to build NetBeans and that you can either run the built > > > > > NetBeans on > > > > top > > > > > of JDK 8 or JDK 9. > > > > > > > > > > You run 'ant' in the clone that you get from Git, as explained > > > > > in the Apache NetBeans Git README. > > > > > > > > > > You can also get a ZIP from Jenkins, if you don't want to build > > > > > at > > all: > > > > > builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux > > > > > > > > > > All of the above is described at > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS. > > > > > > > > > > You can developed NetBeans in NetBeans 8.2 or the Apache > > > > > NetBeans > > > > > 9 > > > > build, > > > > > that's up to you. > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Ok!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's start over! Sorry for being rude! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a new Debian VM, I installed Git, I have Ant, I > > > > > > installed JDK 8 and JDK 9 from oracle. > > > > > > > > > > > > What to do next? > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you develop NB9 inside the built version or using NB 8.2? > > > > > > > > > > > > How do you choose which JDK to be used? > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:13 PM > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > No, nobody is not calling you smart. > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to help you, trying to answer your questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > Geertjan > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:11 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok maybe I'm not as smart as you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I will leave! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PS: I see a lot of people leaving btw! Think about it! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 11:04 PM > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's precisely what you were told in the first e-mail -- > > > > > > > go here and read the README, it tells you exactly that: > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can probably also use a lot less exclamation marks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm sorry to speak like that, because I'm not used to!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But 4 people replied told me the same thing!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be in this mailing list means that I have read this > page!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What I need is very simple a list!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. you need Ant > > > > > > > > 2 install JDK8 > > > > > > > > 3 install JDK9 > > > > > > > > 4 Download this > > > > > > > > 5 install that!!! > > > > > > > > 6 YOU ARE READY TO HELP US!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why this is so hard for all of you to be done!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:58 PM > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Ioannis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We don't call each other idiots here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NetBeans is incubating at Apache. Apache is a software > > > foundation: > > > > > > > > apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What you contribute to an Apache project depends on your > needs. > > > > > > > > What would you like NetBeans to be able to do that it > > > > > > > > currently does not do? What features would you like to work > on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We are currently working on the Beta release of Apache > > > > > > > > NetBeans > > > > > > > > (incubating) 9.0 and you're welcome to work on that too: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Geertjan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why you are so idiots??? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everybody here has read https://cwiki.apache.org/ > > > > > > > > > confluence/display/NETBEANS/How+to+Participate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why you keep posting that!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:53 PM > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We need a lot. We need whatever bugs you want to fix or > > > > > > > > > features you want to implement. What would you like to > > > > > > > > > work > > on? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/How > > > > > > > > > +t > > > > > > > > > o+ > > > > > > > > > Part > > > > > > > > > ic > > > > > > > > > ip > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's tasks and > > > > > > > > > discussions all the time, right now we're working on the > > > > > > > > > Beta > > > > > > release together: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/ > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 9:51 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess you don't need anything!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm out of here!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > From: Geertjan Wielenga > > > > > > > > > > [mailto:geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com] > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 3:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What would you like there to be on the Wiki page that > > > > > > > > > > isn't already > > > > > > > > > there: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Ioannis Torounoglou > > > > > > > > > > <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Zoran, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This a very good idea!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have already found a few things but I'm far away!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How can I start this wiki page? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > From: Zoran Sevarac [mailto:seva...@gmail.com] > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:59 AM > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ioannis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The great way to contribute would be that you put > > > > > > > > > > > together a wiki page for 'Getting Started for > > > > > > > > > > > Contributors' which should include all your > > > > > > > > > > > questions as a new contributor, with all the answers > > > > > > > > > > > you learn along the > > > > > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > > > You can start by creating that page > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:18 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > > > > > > > > > > > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to build etc is all in the README, like for > > > > > > > > > > > > all other Apache > > > > > > > > > > > projects: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How to get involved: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > /H > > > > > > > > > > > > ow+t > > > > > > > > > > > > o+ > > > > > > > > > > > > Pa > > > > > > > > > > > > rt > > > > > > > > > > > > ic > > > > > > > > > > > > ip > > > > > > > > > > > > at > > > > > > > > > > > > e > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, keep following the mailing list, there's > > > > > > > > > > > > tasks and discussions all the time, right now > > > > > > > > > > > > we're working on the Beta > > > > > > > > > release together: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEA > > > > > > > > > > > > NS > > > > > > > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > > > Apache+NetBeans+9.0+Beta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which operating system? Any operating system -- > > > > > > > > > > > > Java is write once, run anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 4:14 PM, Ioannis > > > > > > > > > > > > Torounoglou <john...@ionio.gr> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello again!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry to bother you all and thanks Antonio for > > > > > > > > > > > > > the > > > reply! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I UNDERSTAND that you are all pretty busy > > > > > > > > > > > > > because this is a huge > > > > > > > > > > > project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But if YOU want a community project you mast > > > > > > > > > > > > > spend some time to help community help you!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some people should stop production and give > > > > > > > > > > > > > information to new people who want to get involved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And because these info is not to be sent to > > > > > > > > > > > > > e-mail a WIKI page must be inserted!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which Operating system should I have! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which tools CSV, Netbeans, Notepad (which > > > > > > > > > > > > > versions > > > > > > > > > > > > > etc.) Info how to build (If I have to build ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PLEASE HELP us to HELP you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Antonio [mailto:anto...@vieiro.net] > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 8:32 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Newbie On Board!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome, Ioannis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may want to take a look at our wiki at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wiki > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage > . > > > > > > > > > > > > action?pageId=65873923 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > El 26/11/17 a las 00:02, Ioannis Torounoglou > > escribió: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everybody!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm new here willing to help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't know where to start and what to do! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help will be great! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department > > > > > > > > > > > of Software Engineering University of Belgrade, > > > > > > > > > > > Faculty of Organisational Sciences < > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph > > > > > > > > > > > <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder > > > > > > > > > > > | Java Champion > > > > > > > > > > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-ch > > > > > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > > > pi > > > > > > > > > > > ons> > > > > > > > > > > > | NetBeans Dream Team > > > > > > > > > > > | <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam> > > > > > > > > > > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor Department of Software > > Engineering University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences > > < http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder > > | Java Champion > > <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> > > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam> > > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com > > > > > > > -- > Zoran Sevarac, PhD, Assistant Professor > Department of Software Engineering > University of Belgrade, Faculty of Organisational Sciences < > http://www.fon.rs> Neuroph <http://neuroph.sourceforge.net/> founder | > Java Champion <https://community.oracle.com/community/java/java-champions> > | NetBeans Dream Team <http://wiki.netbeans.org/NetBeansDreamTeam> > Homepage: http://www.zoransevarac.com > >
