I agree that this is a massive achievement but:
* Why are the metrics showing little activity?
* The fact that one group of people is focused on IP clearance
shouldn't block others from working on other things, should it? Are
their pull requests being held up or something? Maybe their pull
requests need some love (follow-up discussion)?
* What happened to the many people who excitedly asked to be listed as
commiters? Why aren't they committing anything now?
I'd especially love to hear from the latter group, to be understand what
has changed over the past couple of months.
Thank you,
Gili
On 2018-02-15 6:20 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
We’re mainly working on IP clearance right now, with the Beta IPMC vote
going very well on the general@incubator mailing list, it looks like we’ll
be able to release the Beta today, which is a massive achievement.
Gj
On Thursday, February 15, 2018, cowwoc <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
I don't mean to offend anyone (not trying to point any fingers, really)
but I want to raise an issue for discussion.
When Netbeans was moved to Apache I saw a lot of activity in the mailing
list. Everyone was excited and that was great but now I am seeing an
extremely low rate of participation by non-Oracle employees (see
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors) and the
overall commit frequency over the past couple of weeks is extremely low
(see https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/commit-activity).
I am bringing this to your attention because looking at JIRA's "Created vs
Resolved" issues for the past 30 days we are seeing an exponential growth
of bug reports but a flat amount of resolved issues:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?
projectOrFilterId=project-12320634&periodName=daily&
daysprevious=30&cumulative=true&versionLabels=major&
selectedProjectId=12320634&reportKey=com.atlassian.jira.
jira-core-reports-plugin%3Acreatedvsresolved-report&atl_
token=A5KQ-2QAV-T4JA-FDED%7C113ee1575eff5807f4be21c1f06ce3f9
6e46f8b2%7Clout&Next=Next
Speaking from my personal experience as an end-user, I think we've got a
long way to go in terms of fixing regressions before I would consider
jumping from version 8.2 to 9.0. I am routinely running into annoying UI
bugs that were not present in 8.2. Yes, we now have JDK 9 support and this
is a big deal but this yet relevant in my day-to-day work (my projects use
Java 8). My primary concern is using the IDE that will make me the most
productive as a developer. The nightly builds are a step backwards in that
regard.
Anyway, I just wanted to bring up this issue for discussion. I remember a
lot of people initially asked to be listed as committers, and I'm wondering
where they all went, what (if anything) has turned them off from
contributing at this time, and what can be done to bring them back.
Reminder: As mentioned in the past, I not have the time to commit fixes
myself. I am intentionally limiting myself to filing bug reports and giving
you feedback as an end-user. I hope you will respect that scope.
Thank you,
Gili
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