That would be great. How/where do we petition for it? :)
Gili
On 2018-03-15 6:34 PM, Ryan Cuprak wrote:
My two cents, I think we should start a petition for JavaFX. It probably is a
resourcing issue at Oracle with competing groups/managers. The function of user
groups/community is to provide feedback to Oracle on things we think they
should invest. We shouldn’t frame it as a JavaFX versus JavaScript/HTML because
that’s counterproductive. It is a good technology, people are using, and we
want it at least part of the platform and not removed if not enhanced.
Note: technically I think we need JavaFX as it brings touch and rich media
support to the platform. It does give us that Webview component which enables
tighter JavaScript/HTML integration (using a derivative of the engine used by
Chrome/Safari).
-Ryan
On Mar 15, 2018, at 3:45 PM, Fabrizio Giudici <fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it>
wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:25:36 +0100, Matthias Bläsing
<mblaes...@doppel-helix.eu> wrote:
Hi,
the one thing, that annoys the hell out of me with HTML based GUIs is,
that everybody reinvents everything, everytime.
Matthias,
you don't know how much I agree with your statement. And I know some major
speakers around - also friend of mine - who think the same. This annoys me so
much that sometimes I wonder whether I'd better change job.
The problem is: the industry is literally intoxicated by this attitude, and I don't see we can do
much to fight it. It is like that for a number of converging reasons, including the fact that, from
a business point of view, it's like the classic "dig holes and then fill them", or
"break windows and then fix them".
Personally I've abandoned Swing time ago, but I find JavaFX pretty good. Now,
unfortunately, I'm seeing even the latest "Asterix villages" that kept on
developing rich client applications falling down and being pressured to move development
of UIs to HTML5. In this perspective, I must say that Oracle's announce to drop JavaFX
from the runtime and give it to the community, while it theoretically could be not a
major problem for the survival of the technology, it's probably going to effectively kill
it, because project managers will interpret the thing like an imminent death - JavaFX
finding itself without a corporate sponsor.
On my perspective, I can work as technology advocate, architect and supporting
consultant for developers, but I'm not the typical professional figure that can
influence project managers (who reason with different references than me) to
the point of making their minds - and I believe many of us, unfortunately, are
in the same bandwagon. So, I don't see a critical mass to change things.
--
Fabrizio Giudici - Java Architect @ Tidalwave s.a.s.
"We make Java work. Everywhere."
http://tidalwave.it/fabrizio/blog - fabrizio.giud...@tidalwave.it
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