> > Just wanted to point out that:
> > 1.  The Netbeans project is potentially loosing lots of people who would
> >     have liked to contribute, but can't find a way how.
> 
> the insight is good, so you obvisually went through this and could
> improve the documentation. That would help the project and you.

I was  thinking the same thing. This seems the perfect contribution.

If the current wiki / articles are not enough, why not make such a document?

--emi

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On 15 June 2018 9:33 PM, Matthias Bläsing <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> Am Freitag, den 15.06.2018, 11:02 -0700 schrieb Dmitry Avtonomov:
> 
> > Just wanted to point out that:
> > 
> > 1.  The Netbeans project is potentially loosing lots of people who would
> >     
> >     have liked to contribute, but can't find a way how.
> >     
> 
> the insight is good, so you obvisually went through this and could
> 
> improve the documentation. That would help the project and you.
> 
> Remember: Many current contributors are around for a long time, so they
> 
> now the places to look and the thinks to do.
> 
> > 2.  10 minute turnaround time for fix-build-run-test cycle is too much.
> 
> This will require some one to step up and look through the build where
> 
> the time is spend. But normally you don't need to rebuild the whole
> 
> IDE. You build once and if you need to modify a set of modules, you
> 
> just rebuild these.
> 
> > 3.  Most importantly I don't know how to start the whole thing in debug
> >     
> >     mode. Do I need to modify the ant script to make it wait for debugger
> >     
> >     connection?
> >     
> 
> You can pass java options through the netbeans launcher via
> 
> "-J<javaarg>". This will run netbeans with debugging enabled:
> 
> /bin/netbeans 
> -J-agentlib:jdwp=transport=dt_socket,suspend=y,server=y,address=9009
> 
> To run a freshly build netbeans you can invoke:
> 
> ant -Ddebug.port=9009 tryme
> 
> This will start the build IDE with a test userdir and it will wait on
> 
> tcp port 9009 for debugger connections.
> 
> > 4.  Just people fiddling around in debugger can lead to some fixes and
> >     
> >     contributions as we're observing system's behavior.
> >     
> 
> Sure.
> 
> I hope you stay and improve the situation.
> 
> Matthias
> 
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