> It's a vicious circle - I'm searching for info on how to perform a particular >task, I can't find that info, I ask for help in the mailing list, you tell me >to create the help document, but I still don't know what to write.
You're not really asking for 'info'. You're asking open-ended questions about large articles that would explain many things. Most of this stuff exists somewhere, but perhaps they were not collated to your liking? So, you are the best person to try and do it. Imagine NetBeans is an alien artefact. Try to learn then explain something about it. Did you try opening a module inside NetBeans IDE and pressing Run. Or Debug. What happened? What's puzzling me is that you seem to have or be involved with a NetBeans Platform app. So, are you even honestly asking this question or is it more like a trick question teachers put to see if students really learned their lesson? --emi ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On 15 June 2018 9:56 PM, Dmitry Avtonomov <[email protected]> wrote: > @Emilian > > It's a vicious circle - I'm searching for info on how to perform a particular > task, I can't find that info, I ask for help in the mailing list, you tell me > to create the help document, but I still don't know what to write. > > @Gj > > Could you please add a link to the wiki on the main website? This wiki is > really hard to find. > > Possibly also add a link to this development environment wiki page to the > "Build from source" section here: > https://netbeans.apache.org/download/index.html > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 11:47 AM Emilian Bold > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Just wanted to point out that: > > > > > > 1. The Netbeans project is potentially loosing lots of people who would > > > > > > have liked to contribute, but can't find a way how. > > > > > > > > > > the insight is good, so you obvisually went through this and could > > > > > improve the documentation. That would help the project and you. > > > > I was thinking the same thing. This seems the perfect contribution. > > > > If the current wiki / articles are not enough, why not make such a document? > > > > --emi > > > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > > > On 15 June 2018 9:33 PM, Matthias Bläsing <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Hi Dmitry, > > > > > > > > > > Am Freitag, den 15.06.2018, 11:02 -0700 schrieb Dmitry Avtonomov: > > > > > > > > > > > Just wanted to point out that: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. The Netbeans project is potentially loosing lots of people who would > > > > > > > > > > > > have liked to contribute, but can't find a way how. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the insight is good, so you obvisually went through this and could > > > > > > > > > > improve the documentation. That would help the project and you. > > > > > > > > > > Remember: Many current contributors are around for a long time, so they > > > > > > > > > > now the places to look and the thinks to do. > > > > > > > > > > > 2. 10 minute turnaround time for fix-build-run-test cycle is too much. > > > > > > > > > > This will require some one to step up and look through the build where > > > > > > > > > > the time is spend. But normally you don't need to rebuild the whole > > > > > > > > > > IDE. You build once and if you need to modify a set of modules, you > > > > > > > > > > just rebuild these. > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Most importantly I don't know how to start the whole thing in debug > > > > > > > > > > > > mode. Do I need to modify the ant script to make it wait for > > > >debugger > > > > > > > > > > > > connection? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can pass java options through the netbeans launcher via > > > > > > > > > > "-J<javaarg>". This will run netbeans with debugging enabled: > > > > > > > > > > /bin/netbeans > > > -J-agentlib:jdwp=transport=dt_socket,suspend=y,server=y,address=9009 > > > > > > > > > > To run a freshly build netbeans you can invoke: > > > > > > > > > > ant -Ddebug.port=9009 tryme > > > > > > > > > > This will start the build IDE with a test userdir and it will wait on > > > > > > > > > > tcp port 9009 for debugger connections. > > > > > > > > > > > 4. Just people fiddling around in debugger can lead to some fixes and > > > > > > > > > > > > contributions as we're observing system's behavior. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure. > > > > > > > > > > I hope you stay and improve the situation. > > > > > > > > > > Matthias > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > > > > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists
