Hi Ken, hi Geertjan,

I think the same. Oracle did a lot of things „weird“ or even wrong but in Netbeans they truly released the project back to the community. IMHO one of the main problems in opensource is that we all fight too much against each other.

The comedian in me smiled a bit, anyways :)

Marcel


Am 13.09.2018 um 08:51 schrieb Geertjan Wielenga:
Hi Ken,

In your slides you have this "How  initially  feelings  of  abandonment
by  Oracle  led  to  a  revitalization  as  part  of  the  Apache
Foundation."

Please consider rewriting this -- note, for example, that I am from Oracle,
than many others working on Apache NetBeans are from Oracle, in fact, more
contributions and work on Apache NetBeans is done by Oracle than any other
organization:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors

And, yes, some of us are doing this on our free time, while others -- such
as myself, and others too -- are working on Apache NetBeans officially from
Oracle.

The reason why NetBeans moved to Apache in the first place was to increase
community involvement:

https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/NetBeansProposal

So, please, reconsider the way you make these kinds of reflections in your
session, since this part is simply not true.

Gj





On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Geertjan Wielenga <
[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, I think it will be a great presentation, the abstract and title are
great too IMHO. Hope it will be recorded!

Gj

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 1:53 PM, Neil C Smith <[email protected]>
wrote:

On Mon, 3 Sep 2018 at 18:21, Kenneth Fogel <[email protected]>
wrote:
I don’t want to bore my audience with too much background. I was
thinking of downloading and running Praxis as a demo of NetBeans as a
platform.

Nice! :-)  Thanks for that.  Have responded to your Twitter message
about examples, but wanted to say that on here too.

If you're looking for contextual photos of the NetBeans editor in
weird places btw, I was using it to live-code lambdas to make
breakbeat music at a Sheffield Algorave last week -
https://sophiadigitalart.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/2018
0901_204029.jpg

Of course, fun aside, a lot of focus for me at the moment is on IoT,
data and media processing uses of PraxisCORE -
https://www.praxislive.org/core/.  This is the actor-based live
programming runtime that makes it all work.  What may not be obvious
from the main PraxisLIVE download is that there are actually two
platform applications here, potentially running in multiple VMs.
PraxisLIVE is based on the full IDE as a platform. PraxisCORE on the
NetBeans Runtime Container (ie. CLI no GUI) as per
https://platform.netbeans.org/tutorials/nbm-runtime-container.html  No
idea whether / how that could fit into what you're saying about the
platform, but I do find those two extremes of potential uses of the
RCP really powerful to work with.

Best wishes,

Neil

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