Awesome. :-)

Gj

On Sunday, September 16, 2018, Kenneth Fogel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Here is a new version with opinion and silliness removed. I can't promise
> not to be silly at the presentation but I will keep my opinions, other than
> NetBeans is the finest IDE, out of it. Ideally I will go through the slides
> in 15 minutes (the PraxisLIVE demo will take a few minutes) and then focus
> on the good bits in a live demo.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xx2u18hti0cgfz9/AABSPXOP620d_GNR-EA7bQtPa?dl=0
>
> Ken
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> Sent: September 15, 2018 6:11 PM
> To: dev <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation
>
> The message to bring is even more positive than you think. :-)
>
> For example:
>
> "Oracle  has  not  abandoned  NetBeans."
>
> ...even that I'd recommend to omit, since it sounds a lot to me like "A
> has not done B", which sounds exactly like "A has in fact done B but here I
> am to defend A and tell you that it has not done B while we all know that
> yes it probably has done precisely B after all and I am here to defend it
> for various reasons etc."
>
> I.e., just don't even go there. :-)
>
> In a similar vein, I wonder about "Might  be  boring  but  the  mothers
> of  all  those  involved  were  very  proud  of  their  children."
>
> Come on! What those people in Prague put together is now the basis of
> software at NASA and Boeing. Why, for what possible purpose, can one be
> cynical about that or use it as the basis for a cheap joke that means
> nothing at all?
>
> Really, we are all part of something that is of significance and that is
> why we are involved in this project. Let's be straight up proud about it
> and there's simply no need at all to add any tone of cynicism, or
> halfhearted modesty, or fake whatever it is to it.
>
> We're part of an absolutely uniquely awesome project -- the statistics are
> there for all to see:
>
> https://projects.apache.org/statistics.html
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/graphs/contributors
>
> https://jelastic.com/blog/software-stacks-statistics-report-q2-2018/
>
> No need to be falsely humble in any way at all -- instead, let each and
> every one of your slides exude the relevance and meaningfuleness of
> everything we here as a community have done together over very many years
> and are continuing to do for free and all in the best interests of
> everybody. :-)
>
> Stand up straight with your shoulders back and represent everything that
> is good and honest about software development, which we so patently and
> clearly present ourselves to be in everything that we do.
>
> Gj
>
>
> Oracle has not abandoned NetBeans
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Kenneth Fogel <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thank you to everyone who commented on the first set of slides in my
> > presentation. I have updated some slides to be more positive and much
> > less opinionated. Please provide me with any additional comments that
> > can make this presentation the best it can be.
> >
> > Here are the files from my DropBox. There are pptx, odp, and pdf
> versions.
> > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xx2u18hti0cgfz9/AABSPXOP620d_GNR-EA7bQtPa?d
> > l=0
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> > Sent: September 15, 2018 10:37 AM
> > To: dev <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation
> >
> > Definitely the way you have it is the right way to go since that's
> > what most users will be doing and having too.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 4:36 PM, Kenneth Fogel
> > <[email protected]
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have successfully installed the 8.2 plugins for JavaScript, PHP &
> JEE.
> > > My question is whether it is better to compile and use the latest
> > > NetBeans
> > > 9 code or stay with 9 plus 8.2 plugins for my presentation.
> > >
> > > Ken
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Geertjan Wielenga <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: September 14, 2018 1:38 AM
> > > To: dev <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon Presentation
> > >
> > > Maybe you can show/talk about JavaScript and PHP as well, those are
> > > popular languages and work well in NetBeans, in addition to Java, of
> > course.
> > >
> > > Gj
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:25 AM, Kenneth Fogel
> > > <[email protected]
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > That's why I sent out the slides so I'll be happy to remove those
> > lines.
> > > > For the demonstration component I plan to talk about Maven's
> > > > excellent integration, NetBeans as a platform by showing
> > > > PraxisLIVE, the ease of building plugins and remote coding on a
> > > > Raspberry Pi. Is there anything more important that I should be
> > > > showing? The session is 50
> > > minutes long.
> > > >
> > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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